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Where do I place my thoughts for more progress...
  • I've been using it for a few months now, basically every day but sometimes a few days in between.

    I've noticed for me that using it when I'm tired or feeling drained of energy means it just doesn't work. Same if I feel rushed etc.

    The problem comes in when I am relaxed, have time and feel good. I use nipple stim on and off to push things to higher levels.

    The problem is two things.

    1) Eventually my whole body is tingling, glowing, pulsing to my heart beat. At this point my eyes tend to close, and this is when things get messed up. As soon as I close my eyes, two things happen. One is my eyes are fluttering back and fourth and also kind of going cross-eyed looking down. If I 'take control' of my eyes to stop this, as it doesn't feel great then my eyes look straight ahead behind my eye-lids and I start *THINKING* about all of this. This causes my pleasure to subside greatly and I rarely ever get the actual mini-o 'waves of pleasure and release feeling', I only have a hand full of times.

    2) Every time the pleasure jumps up to a new level, I begin thinking about this, and wanting more. This of course nullifies the whole paradox that you aren't really allowed to think about wanting more, that you can only really enjoy what you have.

    Porn used to be great to get me going, now it's mostly distracting. I can only look at woman basically, no actual sex between men and woman, that destroys all my pleasure.

    I know some people think of 'breasts', or possibly lots of sex with lots of random woman, or energy fucking them, or nothing... or their own bodies etc..

    My mind just keeps wandering, it's really frustrating. I think using copious amounts of marijuana (I'm a licensed medical patient in my state) helps a lot, but is too much of a crutch to me.

    Where do you guys put your mind so you can really enjoy what you're feeling. Do you think about what you're feeling? Do you think about what you want to feel?... Do you think about woman? (woman do you think about men? [peridise])...

    I'm sure given enough time, I'll figure out why my brain keeps over-analyzing everything stopping the pleasure, but it's actually becoming upsetting at this point.

    Also, I hate to say it, but I realize for myself that this is kind of a common problem with me in general. I have a difficult time focusing on anything for a long period of time. I wonder if I have some form of undiagnosed ADD... That's a whole 'nother issue...

    Anyone with ADD use the Aneros? :-)
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,253
    jackfrost,

    I am going to suggest you read 'darwin' s thread "my theory of orgasm success" for a little bit of insight related to your dilemma.

    The use of cannabis to alter your state of mind is a double edged sword. On one hand, it does liberate one's ego a bit to mentally explore new corners of one's consciousness and thus experience things in a new way. On the other hand maintaining mental focus on any particular idea or notion is difficult so getting to the threshold of the Super-O doorway may be elusive and even when you can make it there, can you remember the steps that allowed it to happen?

    Frequent use (daily?) can contribute to a dulling effect on your prostate. Frequent and continued stimulation can be leading to a numbing effect as the overstimulated nerves try to re-energize themselves by shutting down sensory feedback. Perhaps increasing the time span between sessions may improve results.

    My most enjoyable sessions occur while I'm in a meditative state focusing my mind on an abstract mental image of a living, breathing orb of sensual energy inside my body at my prostate's location. Each pleasure wave is like a radiant flow of energy from this source. This is also predicated on a high arousal state prior to beginning the session. High arousal is a key element to pleasurable sessions for me.
  • alvalv
    Posts: 179
    jackfrost said:


    1) Eventually my whole body is tingling, glowing, pulsing to my heart beat. At this point my eyes tend to close, and this is when things get messed up. As soon as I close my eyes, two things happen. One is my eyes are fluttering back and fourth and also kind of going cross-eyed looking down. If I 'take control' of my eyes to stop this, as it doesn't feel great then my eyes look straight ahead behind my eye-lids and I start *THINKING* about all of this. This causes my pleasure to subside greatly and I rarely ever get the actual mini-o 'waves of pleasure and release feeling', I only have a hand full of times.


    IMHO you have too much energy that has moved from your prostate, up your back and into into your head. I suggest you do one of the following
    a) try and circulate back to the pelvis by placing your tongue onto your upper gums just behind your teeth and think the energy moving back down. This could release a further orgasm, release your tongue from the upper gum and the cycle repeats, possibly a bit more intense.
    b) before circulating the energy back, with your eyes closed, look up into your eyebrows and start circulating the eyes while looking up as far as possible (eye lids closed), this will spin the energy and then continue with a) above. When I am doing this and circulating my eyes I find that my tongue points up and traces a circle synchronously with my eyes but just not touching the upper gums.

    Other things you may notice is that parts of your face start vibrating or that you will be pulling faces, you may also notice needle prick like pains or tingling at all your major acupressure/acupuncture points. I once had my whole inner ear full with this prickling sensation.

    I think you well on your way and reading up on some tao or other life energy practices will help as well, artform sure will give you many pointers there. You are moving well beyond the physical orgasm to full body energetic orgasms.

    Your ADD could possibly be just too much energy that is making you move, do other things, My advice find a tai chi teacher and learn to circulate and control your energies.
  • alv, it's amazing what you've said, because it feels like this is exactly what is happening.

    Every time I put the aneros in, I used to get rock hard and the pleasure was in my groin and penis, now then second I put it in, I basically get an instant head-gasm..

    Head-gasms feel good, sure, but it's not exactly the one and only place I want to feel this.

    So I'll give your advice a shot and will update here.

    I need to get the pleasure back to my groin area to begin. I feel like I moved it away from there because everyone says it's not about the penis, so I think I took all the energy away from there :P
  • Hi Jackfrost, Rumel, Alv

    I too have been on this thing for a few months now, but [perhaps a blessing] don't have the luxury of daily frequency. In fact, I have to keep the baby monitor within earshot, etc.

    Nevertheless, I have been making similar progress to Jack, and have had similar problems.
    Except the eyes, I've never had going crazy. This may be because of two things: a.) I close my eyes from the outset, usually, as part of relaxation. Even wore a kind of boudoir/eye mask once to cut out all sight, which enhances other senses, and b.) I remember being a bit spooked by another post here where the guy had something of an energy overload in his eyes and developed floaters [jelly type stuff tearing from inside eye and messing around with vision]

    Once, while my whole body was buzzing like connected to a battery, tingles really running like waves all over, it started pulsing... in the tip of my nose, for shame!
    Mindful of the eye thing, I tried redirecting the energy downward again, and was amazed at how it happens. Cant say how to do it, but really almost just by imagining it moving around, it becomes so. If I have an amazing tingle in my left groin, 'willing' it to move to the centre usually makes it move there. In fact, when things really start going well deep into a session and it feels like the whole groin is opening up, becoming a void, just thinking about a slight contraction gets more result than making one.

    I've had the needle pricks in some parts, but they also melt into the whole, and enhances it, becoming stronger.

    Great suggestions, alv. I will remember the tongue on gums. Why does this work?


    Jackfrost: About mental imagery, yes, porn gets one horny, but for me it is also now a distraction. However without it, yes, the mind wanders, and before you know it, you have to start over, though it comes back faster again. What I've tried with a lot of of success before is to have porn going, even a really hot still image, on a screen, your phone, whatever, and every now and again just open my eyes to squint and see some flesh, or whatever. It really helps to remind you that you are in fact busy with a sexual thing, not just some yogi trickery. I find that just a glimpse of a nipple or such really just sets things back on track, just a glance, almost like a memory flashback.

    Lately, with my progress, I have gotten to a point where my body takes over, and I really just have to find ways of letting it do its thing. One thing I found worked sometimes is to imagine that all of the sensations I am feeling is in fact because of my wife, busy working my ass. This is amazingly effective at fooling the mind that it can relax, and just receive, instead of feeling you have to be the doer, the protagonist. Frees you from responsibility.

    In that vein, another thing that helps is to replay in my mind Alana's voice saying "Just let go". [Thanks Rumel, BTW for the tracks. Really helped me get going.]

    I'd like to hear more from you, it seems like we are at similar stages, and perhaps we can exchange more thoughts.

    I have not yet had a super-o, since there has not yet been a sense of real climax, or release, or diminished consciousness as described by *some* of the super-Oers. That said, I still shake my head at the sensations experienced so far.

    It feels tantalizingly close though, like some sort of plateau, before the real show comes.
  • alvalv
    Posts: 179
    awakening said:


    Great suggestions, alv. I will remember the tongue on gums. Why does this work?
    .


    First of all awakening congrats on your energetic abilities and allowing these energy flows. You have great discoveries ahead of you if you care to expand your energy horizons.

    Regarding your question, tongue on top of gum, this is an old yoga and chinese qigong trick, The reason is on top of your gum you have two acupressure points that are the termination of a meridian. By placing the tongue onto these, its like a switch, the energy than can carry on flowing through your tongue down your front to the dan tien if you like the chineese explanation or lower chakras if you like yoga explanation.

    This also explains why deep or tongue kissing your partner is so pleasurable when penetrated as you then actually circulate energies through each other bodies where tongue/mouth and vagina/penis are the two cross over points.
  • OBoy
    Posts: 18
    Wow, that tip with the tongue placed on my upper tongue worked for me. It took my mind off what was going on down below and also allowed me to focus much more on breathing properly which has been a set back of late.

    After a short while if felt like a circuit had been made and a light bulb turning on, a loop if you will from my head through my core to my genitals. And it just kept building to such intesity.

    Thanks for tip. I shall see if it works again soon.
  • artformartform
    Posts: 1,473
    Great thread Men!!!!

    Jackfrost, awakening and OBoy; you guys again demonstrate that there are many pathways in the aneros practice that are and go well beyond the strictly sexual! :shock:

    It is excellent that we have expert members like rumel and alv who can be guides through the general and the bio-energetic dimensions of this wonderful aneros adventure. Thanks again rumel and alv!! :D

    As BF Mayfield has said for years your Aneros can be your "Tantric Training Wheels"! Ride on!!! :lol:

    all the best whole being energetic ecstasies and reintegrative pleasures all

    artform