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O/T Anyone here had treatment for breast cancer?
  • Old WolfOld Wolf
    Posts: 114
    Hi all.

    Been off the radar for a while, Aneros sessions have been wonderful with the heights, depths and duration of ecstatic experience continuing to surprise (and, sometimes, frighten) me. For those familiar with my 'Above and Beyond' post (part of which was used in the Progasm testimonial), believe me when I say that there is an 'Above..." beyond that and beyond that. I have stopped classifying experiences and now just revel and wonder at the mystery that is the 'Super-O'.

    Now to the title subject...

    Since puberty (I'm now 58 ) I have had a small lump under my left nipple which was dismissed as benign and transitory by the school doctor many years ago. It wasn't transitory (lol) but stayed roughly the same size over the years.

    Over the last few months it has got bigger but because my energies have been totally tied up with supporting and nursing my mother through terminal cancer I haven't had the spare energy to worry about myself. Mother died a couple of months ago so I eventually plucked up the courage to go to the Dr.

    Cut to the chase, FNA shows positive for cancerous cells, mastectomy scheduled for May 15.

    Mastectomy. There's a word. I'm sure many a woman shudder at it and I aplogise to the women who read and post here. In a nutshell they'll remove the lump, surrounding tissue, some lymph nodes and...

    ...MY NIPPLE! DAMN!! And my left has always been my most sensitive :twisted:

    The surgeon I saw yesterday said there are ways of artificially reconstructing a nipple if I wanted to go that route. In (somewhat rueful) jest I asked if he could replace the sensitivity too, I was quite surprised when he said no-one had ever asked him that before. I took perverse pleasure in surprising (and, I think, slightly embarrassing) a healthcare professional.

    So there it is. May 15 I'll lose my tit. Before the op I've got to run the gauntlet of further tests to make sure that the cancer hasn't spread anywhere else and/or originated anywhere else. The core biopsy taken yesterday should clear up the latter and I see him again next weds to get the results on that. In the meantime I've got to have a chest x-ray, scan and liver function test in case my years on the sauce damaged my liver. (For those wondering, I've been dry now for 2+ years)
    Obviously I'm hoping that the bastard is isolated to my left tit as I don't relish the idea of chemo/radio therapy, I saw what that did to my brother before he died. Ho hum - cross that bridge etc...

    So, again back to the title:

    Anyone here had treatment for breast cancer?

    Old Wolf

    Am I now going to have to 'singularise' my sig?
  • darwindarwin
    Posts: 1,353

    very very sorry to hear about this development. haven't had that, but i am a cancer survivor.

    hang in there.

    as far as sensitivity goes, i suspect that you can retrain that to your other nipple or elsewhere. you know the story.

    best luck, and keep us posted.

  • B MayfieldB Mayfield
    Posts: 2,140
    Old Wolf,

    I'm sorry to hear about this development as well. Seems like you've had your share of stuff to deal with in the last several years. I have to say that I'm thankful that you've shared this with us here in the forum as it reminds us all that women and men get breast cancer. While it is 100 times more likely in women, still around 2000 men will be diagnosed with the disease this year.

    On retaining sensitivity in the tissue, I'm aware that there are some nerve sparing and nipple sparing techniques that are being explored for women, but these may not apply in your case, so you will need to do some research on this.

    If this means that you're left with your right side only, I can tell you that it is possible to enhance sensitivity there with some training. Like you, my left side had always been my fave, as a matter of fact the right never provided me with much of anything at all. Over the last several years however, I've been able to train my right nipple to have similar sensitivity. Just know that it can be done.

    As Darwin said, please keep up posted.

    Take care.

    BF Mayfield
  • GrandTigerGrandTiger
    Posts: 325
    I'm sorry too Old Wolf to hear about your condition. Have you considered alternative treatment? I would definitely think twice before letting anyone near me with a knife especially with cancer cells around that can break loose and go elsewhere. And I'm also against nuclear and chemical warfare because of the huge amount of collateral damage.

    Have you heard about Flor Essense?

    This product was actually designed for cancer treatment and is very successful, but not for 100% of people 100% of the time for 100% of cancers! Therefore it is marketed merely as a detox cleanse program. (Damned lawyers!!!).

    I've seen it work! The cancer cells around the body get gathered up back in the place where they came from, i.e., the tumor, where they eventually die. At first the tumor swells and then can be more safely removed once the cancer cells are dead, or sometimes if close enough to the surface it bursts and all the yucky stuff comes out. Either way, you would probably remain intact after it was gone.

    Also there is a whole bunch of supplements that would help too.

    But it's no use getting an MD's opinion about alternative treatment, they are all of one accord. I would look for a naturopath for advice.

    Anyway, don't rush into surgery. They will tell you it's urgent, but they want your business more than to see you healed.

    Send me a PM and if you give me an address then I'll send you a copy of the Essiac Report which tells the story of how Flor Essence came to be.

    God bless,

  • wohdinwohdin
    Posts: 42
    That detoxification treatment sounds like something that would be more successful with more internal cancers, but that's just an observation. It could work well.

    But if I was OP, I would probably think about the most guaranteed method first. Of course you'll miss the nipple, but you have the whole rest of the body to explore!

    As always, talk to your doctor about it. It seems to me at least that doctors are usually really responsive to potential study of cancerous tissue, since we still know so little about it. Any doctor would love to get the opportunity to examine new treatment methods. Since cancer is so volatile, that chance is pretty hard to coome by in humans. =\
  • rumelrumel
    Posts: 2,484
    Old Wolf,

    My sympathy is with you. I am sorry to hear about your recent bad news. As a prostate cancer survivor, I understand the psychic trauma you are experiencing and the fears regarding the loss of a particularly sensual body part. But, as ‘BF Mayfield’ mentioned, the mind is capable of learning new pathways for sensual arousal. It is possible in your new learning journey you will discover heightened sensitivity in areas of your body you hadn’t previously encountered.

    My most sincere wishes for a speedy and pain free healing go out to you.
  • GrandTigerGrandTiger
    Posts: 325
    Old Wolfe, I forgot to mention that it was with breast cancer that Flor Essence story began, and this is the kind of cancer that it most successfully heals. If it were me, I'd be on it asap, two-day Fedex air.

    My wife had a thing under her armpit that first looked like a mole but then got bigger and sore. She took the "tea" for a few weeks and the tumor swelled up and burst and stuff like cottage cheese came out, and then it healed quickly and never returned. This is exactly what is described in the Essiac Report about cancerous tumors in the breast and other locations near the surface. Sometimes when the tumors are deeper, the body will eventually clean it all out, otherwise it's best to have it cleaned out surgically which is much easier and safer than removing it before having the treatment.

    I also knew someone personally who was diagnosed with liver cancer and given 4 weeks to live, as it was very advanced. She had 27 tumors in her liver. She started on the tea and took it religiously. Over the weeks and months her condition improved dramatically and she lived an active life again for a while. Unfortunately the damage to her liver was already done and after about a year she began to feel very sleepy all the time, but not sick and no pain! She passed away in her sleep about 13 months after the diagnosis. Autopsy revealed only 3 small tumors remaining in her liver. It was liver failure that ultimately caused her death. I know that is a sad story, but it was wonderful how she lived comfortably for a year longer than she was given, if it had been diagnosed much earlier then she would still be alive and well.

    The risk of spreading the cancer by cutting out the tumor now is very real, that's why they follow up with nuclear and/or chemical warfare. That makes as much sense as going to live in Chernobyl in 1986 or Seveso in 1976 to recover from cancer. Kill the immune system just when it's needed most.

    I was sad to hear about your mom, Old Wolf. My mom passed away in 1999 and then my dad in 2003. Of course both occasions were terribly sad, but losing one's mother is the most painful.

    God bless you Old Wolf; I pray God will guide you to make the right decision and heal you completely.

  • pnomanpnoman
    Posts: 145
    Old Wolf-

    I truly feel for you. I hope that you recover rapidly. We can hope that the other nipple will become twice as sensitive!

    I had a lump in one of my nipples several months ago. Got a mammogram and everything. Luckily for me it turned out to not be cancerous. Search for a post by Devo "A Lump Under My Nipple" or something like that. I wrote about my ordeal.

    At any rate-
    There is a very high recovery rate for breast cancer. You WILL beat this thing. Get it in your head. I recently had a relative that was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer, stage 3. A surgery, chemo and one year later- the doctors told him he was cancer free. Keep your head up.
  • nurseladynurselady
    Posts: 95
    Old Wolf - I'm sorry to hear about your cancer diagnosis. Please talk to your plastic surgeon beforehand and discuss possible nipple saving procedures. It can be done and often is with breast cancer reconstruction. I wish you the best!
    You are in my thoughts.
  • Old WolfOld Wolf
    Posts: 114
    Thank you all so much for your support. It really means a lot to me. I get the results from the core biopsy tomorrow (Wednesday). I'll keep you all informed.

    Darwin, BF Mayfield, rumel, wohdin, pnoman: I've been involving my right nipple in Aneros sessions almost since the beginning. I get a different sort of buzz from it but still nice :)
    Since the diagnosis I've been working on my navel which is also quite sensitive.

    GrandTiger: I'll try and source the Flor Essence here in the UK.

    NurseLady: A plastic surgeon doesn't come into it, I'm afraid. The mastectomy is carried out under the National Health, but from what I've read online the fact that the cancer is immediately under the nipple would preclude any chance of 'nipple saving' anyway. Thank you for the thought though.

    Take care all,

    Old Wolf
  • GrandTigerGrandTiger
    Posts: 325
    Hello Old Wolf,

    When I was in my twenties, I got a small hard and sore lump under my left nipple. After a while, I pressed it and some liquid came out of my nipple. Then the lump disappeared never to return. I'm mentioning this because if your tumor responded to the Flor Essence, and I do believe it would, then it may be possible to expel all the soft yucky stuff out through your nipple without surgery and with no permanent damage. Even if surgery were needed, then it would be so much easier to remove the soft loose material than to remove the solid mass as it is now.

    If you can't find the Flor Essence in UK then you can still have it in a couple of days from USA or Canada by Fedex Air. And as I said, I'll be happy to Fedex you the book myself, or you can get it from Amazon:

    At least check the reviews!

    The remedy is not a quick fix; it would take weeks. And then you would continue on a low maintenance dose. But you would be completely healed and fully intact afterward.

    I know that resisting mainstream medical opinion is not easy, but I have no doubt at all about what I would do. I know this is different, but my cardiologist had me scheduled to put stents in my arteries a few years ago because my arteries were blocked and I had angina pains. He ridiculed the idea of chelation therapy, but nevertheless I insisted he cancel my surgery and I never went back! My MD even refused to let me have a scan telling me that it would not provide any useful information! So I went to the heart hospital and paid for it myself, a mere $250. I had severe calcification. I went to a naturopath and had 40 IV's over the next few months and repeated the scan. Calcification was minimal and I felt like a new man! Total cost of everything was < $4000 out of my own pocket. Cost of stents, about $25000 (yes, twenty five thousand), would have been covered by insurance. What a bloody racket!!!

    Believe me Old Wolf, sickness is big business. You have time, do the research and do not be bullied by the establishment. It's your body, the only one you have. Think twice before you let butchers who don't give a damn start hacking away at you. I'm not intending to scare you for no reason, but I hope I will scare you enough to open your eyes and think very carefully before proceeding.

    God bless you Old Wolf,

  • Old WolfOld Wolf
    Posts: 114
    Hi again all,

    Per the title: Good News!

    I saw the specialist yesterday and have been told that the cancer is grade 1, i.e. (As far as they can tell at the moment) is confined to the beast lump and that the lump is the primary site. I will be going for the mastectomy but will investigate alternative post-op recovery options to avoid any allopathic 'chemical & nuclear warfare'. It is not certain even whether chemo/radio therapy will be recommended but I want to avoid those at all costs. Tamoxifen may be prescribed post op. The op is still scheduled for 15th May, that in itself being good news of a sort; if 'they' were unduly worried they'd have brought the date forward.
    Today I've got a pre-op chat (one-on-one to avoid embarrassment to me/women in the same situation) followed by a medical.

    Last night, to unwind, I got quite stoned and had an amazing MGX/Progasm session. With the bigger worry more or less eradicated I was able to relax into a sublime slightly-rough-seas sort of extended orgasmic bliss that seemed to go on for hours and I eventually drifted into warm erotic sleep with big P still in place. I feel great today :D

    Once again thanks a million for all the messages of support.

    Take care,

    Old Wolf
  • hulahula
    Posts: 234
    O.W., you'll be in my prayers. I wish you a speedy healing, whatever course you take.