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Newbies Chat Event Transcript - 9/27/2008
  • Hi Everyone,

    Here is the (mostly) complete transcript of the newbies chat event. It looks like zeto34 got some great advice, he reported that he reached his first super-o later that day after learning some techniques from the experts!

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    [15:04:21] B Mayfield: that's how it works on my Mac too
    [15:04:32] ArcticWolves: well i'll just occasionally copy and paste that every now and then
    [15:04:44] [email][/email]: as you know, this chat event is directed to new users or those who are interested but have questions
    [15:04:53] hlaser99: So, Bigger IS better???
    [15:05:04] ArcticWolves: boooo
    [15:05:13] ArcticWolves: well...
    [15:05:18] ArcticWolves: smaller is better :P
    [15:05:39] ArcticWolves: bah, you're confusing me hlaser i'm going to throw some water on my face brbr
    [15:05:53] hlaser99: Any Aneros in a storm . . .
    [15:06:02] B Mayfield: it's all good!
    [15:06:06] [email][/email]: let's start with some introductions again - I think zeto34 is our newcomer to that chat events today
    [15:06:24] [email][/email]: Brian let's start with you as AW will be right back
    [15:06:25] zeto34: hi
    [15:07:07] B Mayfield: Zeto....tell us a bit about yourself....
    [15:07:41] B Mayfield: what's your Aneros model of long you've had it etc.
    [15:07:44] zeto34: i go the aneros about 2 months ago but havent been using it much.
    [15:07:53] zeto34: helix
    [15:08:14] B Mayfield: why's that?
    [15:08:35] rumel: How can we help you today?
    [15:08:37] ArcticWolves: ok back...
    [15:08:39] zeto34: i started using it more in the last week and am starting to get some pretty good feellings
    [15:08:56] B Mayfield: good
    [15:09:13] hlaser99: From where do you hail??? (live)
    [15:09:25] zeto34: virgina
    [15:09:29] ArcticWolves: and How old are you?
    [15:09:38] hlaser99: cool
    [15:09:47] zeto34: just turned 22 yesterday
    [15:09:52] ArcticWolves: w00t
    [15:09:59] B Mayfield: Happy Birthday!
    [15:10:05] zeto34: thanks
    [15:10:07] ArcticWolves: Well Happy Birthday
    [15:10:14] rumel: Yes Happy BD!
    [15:10:27] ArcticWolves: so how did you find out about the aneros? If I may ask...
    [15:10:31] hlaser99: ditto...
    [15:10:37] ArcticWolves: Good Morning Skeeter!!
    [15:10:52] skeeter_g: Morning!!
    [15:11:00] zeto34: i dont remember just stumbled across it on the internet
    [15:11:18] ArcticWolves: excellent :)
    [15:11:30] B Mayfield: have you had any prior experience with anal play?
    [15:12:06] zeto34: well i had stuck fingers up there before while masturbaiting
    [15:12:36] B Mayfield: and it felt good to you I assume...yes/
    [15:12:37] ArcticWolves: fingers?? as in more than one
    [15:13:04] zeto34: not more than one at a time but used diffrent fingers seperately
    [15:13:20] ArcticWolves: good good... continue...
    [15:13:54] B Mayfield: don't want to seem like we're "grilling' you here...just trying to get background
    [15:14:07] hlaser99: Any questions about the Aneros???
    [15:14:08] zeto34: i read about aneros and it seemed like fun so i though i would try it
    [15:14:09] B Mayfield: so do you have any questions at this point?
    [15:14:41] zeto34: no not really i just hoped to pick up on some pointers
    [15:14:49] ArcticWolves: What's different now then when you first got it?? What made you start liking it more???
    [15:15:16] rumel: Have you read through the WIKI?
    [15:15:29] ArcticWolves: and by the way excellent choice on the Helix...
    [15:15:35] zeto34: i guess i just got better at it. at first it didnt do much but now it feels much better
    [15:15:44] zeto34: yes i have read the wiki
    [15:16:00] skeeter_g: Well zeto34 you have come to the right place... ask us something, anything that comes to mind.
    [15:16:00] ArcticWolves: well that much better feeling is what you want... We are glad to hear that!!
    [15:16:21] ArcticWolves: Did you have any particular questions from the WIKI?
    [15:18:00] zeto34: what is a good lube. i have been using vasline but i have read on the forum a lot of people dont like that. why
    [15:18:15] ArcticWolves: lol rumel can answer this one
    [15:19:08] rumel: To me Vaseline is too thick and a petroleum based product.
    [15:19:32] rumel: I prefer a more natural product.
    [15:19:50] zeto34: is petroleum based bad?
    [15:20:04] B Mayfield: oil based products are absorbed into the tissues also
    [15:20:11] rumel: Your decision!
    [15:20:21] B Mayfield: with respect to them being bad...there is some controversy on that
    [15:20:45] skeeter_g: i'm with rumel a more natural product is the best way to go.
    [15:20:47] ArcticWolves:
    [15:20:50] B Mayfield: many prefer something that is more natural
    [15:20:54] rumel: Yes ther is no hard evidence against Vaseline.
    [15:21:00] ArcticWolves: Beeswax ftw
    [15:21:10] B Mayfield: although the water based lubes aren't necessarily naturally derived
    [15:21:42] B Mayfield: they are metabolized by the body naturally
    [15:22:02] B Mayfield: a sugar for instance
    [15:22:32] B Mayfield: again...much of it is about preference
    [15:22:35] zeto34: ok thanks everyone
    [15:23:01] ArcticWolves: OUCH, a lube with glycerin in it burns for me... at first it didn't but with prolonged use I developed a burning from it
    [15:23:16] ArcticWolves: Try finding a lube w/o glycerin if you go water based
    [15:23:25] skeeter_g: Maximus is one that is mentioned often in the forum, and is totally water based
    [15:23:27] rumel: I am becoming more sensitive to the glycerin component (urge to purge factor)
    [15:23:40] B Mayfield: yes...I like that one myself
    [15:23:54] skeeter_g: no glycerin
    [15:24:07] hlaser99: Why dont we all just enter our favorit lube???
    [15:24:19] B Mayfield: there more non-glycerin water based lubes coming onto the market all of the time
    [15:24:41] skeeter_g: That is good to hear brian
    [15:24:43] B Mayfield: it's the NEW THANG!
    [15:25:20] B Mayfield: I've been at several of the trade shows recently....and most of the manufacturers are offering this
    [15:25:22] rumel: I like 'Natural Jelly'
    [15:25:31] ArcticWolves: Alright my favorite lube is Liquid Silk.. Feels excellent and I never have to reapply once I start 2 hours later
    [15:25:35] hlaser99: I use Albolene and for rubber toys I use Boy Butter H2O
    [15:26:16] skeeter_g: For me I have two favorites, for heavy duty sessions, I use my natural home made one. For off the shelf Maximus.
    [15:26:17] ArcticWolves: Rumel uses a concoction *spelling error* that he made himself using a combination of beeswax, vitamine e oil, shea butter and
    [15:26:18] B Mayfield: Boy Butter oil based is cool too...for those who like oil based
    [15:26:21] ArcticWolves: almond oil...
    [15:26:50] ArcticWolves: and let me tell you if you want all natural then rumel's is the best way to go
    [15:27:06] ArcticWolves: it feels just like petroleum jelly but no petroleum and it's healthy for you!!
    [15:27:10] B Mayfield: yes....he makes it in large barrels out in back of his house !!!
    [15:27:18] ArcticWolves: ROFL yup
    [15:27:20] B Mayfield: lol
    [15:27:26] rumel: :bigtongue:
    [15:27:29] ArcticWolves: Rumel I'm going to buy one from you :P
    [15:27:39] ArcticWolves: you have to get the besswax just right :P
    [15:27:47] ArcticWolves: lmao you should have seen my first attempt... :D
    [15:27:53] B Mayfield: buy it by the pallette !
    [15:27:54] hlaser99: :laugh:
    [15:28:22] skeeter_g: :laugh:
    [15:28:28] hlaser99: Ok, I assume this isn't Smuckers???
    [15:28:40] hlaser99: Where do you get it???
    [15:28:44] ArcticWolves: lol
    [15:28:48] ArcticWolves: you make it
    [15:28:51] rumel: Yes but getting it from the bees is tricky they keep stinging me!
    [15:29:08] B Mayfield: Arctic Wolves.....just an you have any plans to do any more videos with your socks?
    [15:29:10] ArcticWolves: you have to go to a beehive dangit rumel took my idea lol
    [15:29:27] ArcticWolves: I was letting redbeard take over for awhile ;)
    [15:29:43] ArcticWolves: his videos seem interesting :)
    [15:30:02] skeeter_g: Yes it does AW
    [15:30:03] hlaser99: Had a girl with a bee hive once???
    [15:30:03] [email][/email]: hi everyone, zeto34 has introduced himself, why doesn't everyone else do the same?
    [15:30:33] [email][/email]: age, location, and experience with your Aneros?
    [15:30:37] ArcticWolves: Yes I'm going to do a video within the next few weeks with my ''SOCKS'' :)
    [15:30:43] B Mayfield: you know I was thinking that if there was ever an Aneros Hall of Fame....should probably have those socks hangin' there! lol
    [15:30:57] ArcticWolves: HAHAHAHA
    [15:31:01] skeeter_g: Not the socks!! :laugh:
    [15:31:06] B Mayfield: a classic !
    [15:31:07] ArcticWolves: Well let's go alphabetically
    [15:31:14] [email][/email]: let's start with Artic Wolves, also known as "two socks"
    [15:31:21] B Mayfield: yes....just like at the Hard Rock Cafe
    [15:31:30] ArcticWolves: Support has asked a reasonable request and we shall fulfill it going in alphabetical order... shhh everyone until this is
    [15:31:31] ArcticWolves: done with
    [15:31:48] B Mayfield: that's right "two socks"
    [15:32:21] ArcticWolves: I just turned 23 years old 2 weeks ago, I am from Southern California, and I have lots of anal experience since i was 18
    [15:32:21] [email][/email]: okay, AW go for it :smile:
    [15:32:50] ArcticWolves: mainly just sex toys and had my first Superorgasm back in April 2008. Haven't turned back ever since... **END**
    [15:33:05] ArcticWolves: ooo wait... one more thing
    [15:33:36] ArcticWolves: I own the Progasm, Eupho, MGX, and Advanced Peridise set... **END**
    [15:33:57] [email][/email]: great! thanks AW. Brian?
    [15:34:14] hlaser99: Hi, I am a A user since 2005, 60 YO, from Central Florida, Oen em' ALL, Aneros, KSMO, Still Learning??? (I hope!)
    [15:35:08] B Mayfield: Hi all, my name is Brian Mayfield, I’ve been a forum member for over 5 years and a lurker before that.
    [15:35:15] hlaser99: Own
    [15:35:24] B Mayfield: . I’ve written extensively in the forum and was one of the chief contributors and developers the WIKI with Rumel and Darwin
    15:36:00] rumel: rumel here, 61, 18 months use w/ Aneros, Sacramento CA., producer of "HypnAerosession".
    [15:36:50] B Mayfield: ooops......I'm 50 , and I live in Southern California
    [15:36:51] rumel: You're up Skeeter
    [15:37:08] skeeter_g: I'm 59, live up in Sonoma County CA. in the wine country, and have over 2 year experience... well... a hell of a lot more...
    [15:37:10] hlaser99: Oh, I was a lurker too!
    [15:37:27] ArcticWolves: LOL
    [15:37:27] skeeter_g: More anel play experience for sure.
    [15:37:39] skeeter_g: :laugh:
    [15:37:54] ArcticWolves: lol
    [15:37:58] B Mayfield: ever been to the French Laundry?
    [15:38:05] [email][/email]: great! thanks everyone for the intros :smile:
    [15:38:08] ArcticWolves: ?
    [15:38:28] ArcticWolves: Non monsieur
    [15:38:30] [email][/email]: i'll throw it back to you guys
    [15:38:42] skeeter_g: Nope... fill me in?
    [15:38:55] B Mayfield: actually Yountville
    [15:39:16] skeeter_g: Yep many times...
    [15:39:30] skeeter_g: good food in Yountville.
    [15:39:55] rumel: I wonder what happened to the newbies who signed up to attend today?
    [15:40:17] zeto34: am i the only newbie here
    [15:40:22] B Mayfield: they're out there having their morning sessions!
    [15:40:30] skeeter_g: I was originally from Southern Cal, but liked wine!!
    [15:40:46] skeeter_g: born in L.A.
    [15:40:50] B Mayfield: my bro lives up in Yountville
    [15:40:55] hlaser99: Yea! 5 experienced Guys jumping on poorZeto???
    [15:41:01] ArcticWolves: It appears that way zeto...
    [15:41:09] ArcticWolves: stick around the party is just getting started :)
    [15:41:12] [email][/email]: zeto it looks like you are the only newbie, several more did RSVP
    [15:41:20] hlaser99: We need more nubs...
    [15:41:30] ArcticWolves: you nub
    [15:41:33] ArcticWolves: we already have one
    [15:41:36] ArcticWolves: ;P
    [15:41:39] ArcticWolves: :P
    [15:41:40] rumel: I'm not jumping him...No way!
    [15:41:42] skeeter_g: We always seem to have fun!!
    [15:41:49] ArcticWolves: :tongue:
    [15:41:49] B Mayfield: lol
    [15:42:04] ArcticWolves: :happpy:
    [15:42:19] ArcticWolves: :kiss: :laugh: :ohmy:
    [15:42:29] B Mayfield: had another hands-free last night!
    [15:42:52] hlaser99: Did whe tie you up???
    [15:42:57] hlaser99: she
    [15:43:06] skeeter_g: do tell brian!! :laugh:
    [15:43:06] ArcticWolves: meh wait, I want to here what a session is like from beginning to end with zeto??
    [15:43:12] ArcticWolves: see if we can give him any pointers
    [15:43:17] B Mayfield: acapella my friend
    [15:43:22] skeeter_g: I bet it was great!!!
    [15:43:35] ArcticWolves: wow hear*
    [15:43:42] hlaser99: Oh, Italian!
    [15:44:13] ArcticWolves: sorry
    [15:44:16] ArcticWolves: :blushin:
    [15:44:27] B Mayfield: np....
    [15:44:28] hlaser99: k...
    [15:44:30] ArcticWolves: :blush:
    [15:44:41] B Mayfield: I think we all want to do good by him
    [15:44:44] zeto34: i dont really have questions. i thought more noobs would be here to ask questions i did not think of
    [15:44:47] ArcticWolves: yeah
    [15:44:59] ArcticWolves: I got one for rummel
    [15:45:05] skeeter_g: We were hoping also.
    [15:45:12] B Mayfield: it's luck of the draw sometimes
    [15:45:21] ArcticWolves: How in the heck am I supposed to get my naturally jelly out of my glass jar with dispenser
    [15:45:33] ArcticWolves: if it won't come out the dispenser
    [15:45:41] ArcticWolves: and I can't get my finger into the bottom of the jar :(
    [15:45:48] ArcticWolves: hehehe too much beeswax
    [15:45:51] B Mayfield: now THAT's a technical question!
    [15:46:16] hlaser99: Call Tech Support!
    [15:46:19] ArcticWolves: but the question is how do I measure my beeswax according to your recipe?
    [15:46:20] B Mayfield: polysorbate 80
    [15:46:22] rumel: Use a small spatula.
    [15:46:55] ArcticWolves: all's I got is a knife and slightly slivering away some after I realized how little is needed to go a long ways
    [15:47:11] rumel: Youcan melt it and pour into a tablespoon.
    [15:47:20] ArcticWolves: oh
    [15:47:27] ArcticWolves: hhaaha
    [15:47:32] ArcticWolves: why didn't i think of that
    [15:47:48] B Mayfield: need to be making this in the large Oak Barrels....they way that Rumel does
    [15:48:08] ArcticWolves: One more question...How do you wash it off when you're done
    [15:48:13] ArcticWolves: I've been having trouble with that one
    [15:48:14] rumel: You are right a little beeswax goes a long ways.
    [15:48:27] hlaser99: And the Brewerys...
    [15:48:27] ArcticWolves: the oil and beeswax is so strong
    [15:48:43] skeeter_g: Hey AW see my post on some little wide mouth jars from Cost Plus
    [15:48:46] B Mayfield: let Aunt Bee do it for you!
    [15:48:47] ArcticWolves: I had to take cornstarch to get it off
    [15:48:48] B Mayfield: lol
    [15:48:54] rumel: Yes cleanup of utensils is problematic.
    [15:48:57] ArcticWolves: rofl and let me tell you i had a lot of explaining to do
    [15:48:58] skeeter_g: they work great for natural lubes.
    [15:49:47] B Mayfield: guys...I'm getting silly....low blood to get some food...brb
    [15:50:07] ArcticWolves: no joke I had all this white powder around my ''tool'' it was embarassing... no other alternative
    [15:50:11] ArcticWolves: soap wouldn't take it off
    [15:50:13] rumel: Boiling water and paper towels works pretty well.
    [15:50:16] ArcticWolves: it was water proof wow
    [15:50:33] ArcticWolves: uhm
    [15:50:36] skeeter_g: One of the reasons I use the Shea Butter is that it is a bit easer to clean up.
    [15:51:12] ArcticWolves: sorry rumel I used the recipe for something else and didn't put it on the aneros just yet..
    [15:51:17] rumel: Then soap and water after.
    [15:51:29] hlaser99: And you stick that up your ass???
    [15:51:39] ArcticWolves: lol hlaser
    [15:51:42] ArcticWolves: shhh don't be funny
    [15:51:59] ArcticWolves: it would have to bend 180 degrees for that
    [15:52:27] ArcticWolves: so hot water, paper towels then soap and water?
    [15:52:41] rumel: Yes.
    [15:53:05] ArcticWolves: it seems much stonger and heavier duty than petroleum jelly
    [15:53:24] rumel: The beeswax is tenascious stuff, thats why it holds well to the Aneros.
    [15:53:25] ArcticWolves: but it feels just like it how awesome
    [15:53:36] hlaser99: I'll stick with whale blubber???
    [15:53:50] ArcticWolves: ROFL hlaser
    [15:54:19] ArcticWolves: it holds well to anything
    [15:54:29] rumel: You can adjust the viscosity by reducing the beeswax proportions.
    [15:54:56] ArcticWolves: yes but I was making a small amount
    [15:55:05] ArcticWolves: I am sold now... i love the feel but I want to make more...
    [15:55:47] ArcticWolves: and your smaller portion recipe is hard to calculate if I want to say... feel something about the size of a glass vaseline j
    [15:55:48] ArcticWolves: jar
    [15:55:48] rumel: A little of this stuff lasts a long time and goes a long ways.
    [15:56:06] hlaser99: Why not market it with the CD, Rumel???
    [15:56:29] ArcticWolves: the question than comes to how do I know how much beeswax to use if I up the recipe>?? I would measure
    [15:56:30] hlaser99: Small jars of it!
    [15:56:38] ArcticWolves: the beeswax in a tablespoon by melting it i guess
    [15:56:39] rumel: FDA approvals required.
    [15:57:04] hlaser99: Food or Drug???
    [15:57:11] ArcticWolves: ok sorry for all the questions rumel
    [15:57:22] ArcticWolves: thanks for the help...
    [15:57:37] ArcticWolves: Npsion, welcome to the Aneros Chat Center!!
    [15:57:41] rumel: Thats OK, that is what the Chat session is all about.
    [15:57:51] nPsion: hi everyone
    [15:58:02] hlaser99: Hey Dude!
    [15:58:02] rumel: Hello
    [15:58:04] ArcticWolves: hi
    [15:58:07] zeto34: hi nPsion
    [15:58:24] rumel: How canwe help you today?
    [15:58:38] [email][/email]: welcome nPsion to the chat event!
    [15:58:55] nPsion: well, I came to the last chat event, I'm still trying to get my feet wet I guess
    [15:59:09] ArcticWolves: oh yeah...
    [15:59:24] nPsion: but I did have kind of a strange question, if that is ok
    [15:59:45] rumel: Ask
    [15:59:48] hlaser99: We are ALL strange here!
    [15:59:57] ArcticWolves: However strange it may be it may seem strange that we can help you with it!
    [16:00:21] nPsion: I"ve only had three sessions so far, and I'm working down the path and rewiring and all that
    [16:00:41] nPsion: so far, nothing near a super o or anything, no spasms, and that's fine by me, I know it will take time
    [16:01:11] nPsion: so each session ended in a traditional orgasm, but when I approached climax, the aneros would slide out and fall to the floor
    [16:01:19] nPsion: is that normal, or has anyone else experienced that?
    [16:01:58] hlaser99: What position are you in???
    [16:02:35] ArcticWolves: As you were approaching climax it slid out? So it wasn't during climax, correct?
    [16:02:38] nPsion: I usually try lying on my stomach, but then move to kneeling back on my ankles or kneeling in an upward position
    [16:03:07] nPsion: well, just as I was getting to climax, but before ejaculation begins
    [16:03:10] ArcticWolves: well as you know gravity will be your enemy in that position...
    [16:03:11] rumel: At orgasm your sphincter is spasming and letting go of its hold, I think that should be considered normal.
    [16:04:02] hlaser99: Have you tried sitting or on your back???
    [16:04:10] ArcticWolves: what you need to understand is how much things are happening just before orgasm...rumel got it on the nail
    [16:04:40] nPsion: I could hold the aneros in while kneeling, it was just approaching orgasm, but I guess with my sphincter spasming
    [16:04:43] nPsion: that makes sense
    [16:04:50] ArcticWolves: yup
    [16:05:09] ArcticWolves: it's called involuntary muscle movement and you can't control it once you reach the PONR
    [16:05:15] nPsion: I have tried sitting, but I kept bumping the handle and tab so I didn't really like that
    [16:05:33] ArcticWolves: try doing what hlaser said... another position... as that position seems to have a lot of gravity
    [16:05:43] ArcticWolves: try laying on your back
    [16:05:44] rumel: That's why a lot of guys cut the handle off.
    [16:05:59] ArcticWolves: lol rumel
    [16:06:32] ArcticWolves: the position you're in seems to have gravity working against you...
    [16:06:58] rumel: Yeah, gravity sucks!
    [16:07:14] nPsion: yeah, and eventually I'll be moving away from traditional orgasms, but that's just where I've been during my few sessions
    [16:07:18] hlaser99: LOL
    [16:08:23] ArcticWolves: All's I can tell you is just don't make it a habit everytime with the aneros
    [16:08:35] hlaser99: Try on back feet flat on bed and keep the aneros between the mattress and you...
    [16:09:14] B Mayfield: hello
    [16:09:23] nPsion: ok, I"ll give that shot, see if that position works better for me
    [16:09:25] hlaser99: Hi Gemini!
    [16:09:32] ArcticWolves: Good Morning, GeminiDon Wlecome to the Chat Center!!
    [16:09:39] zeto34: hello gemini don
    [16:09:40] ArcticWolves: Welcome*
    [16:09:50] nPsion: I was never really comfortable on my side, so I guess I've just been looking for a position that willw ork for me
    [16:10:05] rumel: Hello G
    [16:10:08] ArcticWolves: I love your attitude... so explorative
    [16:10:17] hlaser99: Back is my most successful!
    [16:10:22] ArcticWolves: you'll go far in the future in regards to your aneros sessions
    [16:10:25] B Mayfield: have you tried kneeling?
    [16:10:26] skeeter_g: Hi Sorry guys... have a dish network guy here fixing it. been away for a few.
    [16:10:26] GeminiDon: Thanks for the welcome... Good Morning
    [16:10:37] nPsion: thanks, I certainly hope so
    [16:10:46] skeeter_g: Welcome guys.
    [16:10:57] hlaser99: ok
    [16:11:06] rumel: G how can we help you today?
    [16:11:24] ArcticWolves: lol Skeeter, did you engage in an aneros chat with the cable guy?
    [16:11:25] ArcticWolves: j/k
    [16:11:37] ArcticWolves: :huh: :unsure: :blush: :blushin: :biggrin:
    [16:11:58] skeeter_g: Oh boy.. :laugh:
    [16:12:08] ArcticWolves: lol uhoh
    [16:12:47] ArcticWolves: So Gemini, if you have any questions... Anything... just feel free to ask away!!
    [16:13:06] GeminiDon: Seems I can get just to the edige of an O, but then it fads aaway. Any suggestions?
    [16:13:19] ArcticWolves: Orgasm or Super Orgasm?
    [16:13:40] skeeter_g: It will come GeminiDon
    [16:13:58] skeeter_g: sound like your body is just not there yet.
    [16:14:10] rumel: Stay relaxed, don't try to force the situation the feelings will return.
    [16:14:12] B Mayfield: you have can try using technique to get you there
    [16:14:26] skeeter_g: yep
    [16:14:27] B Mayfield: a different contraction.....breathing etc...
    [16:14:49] ArcticWolves: Sliding... Deeper .... Now...
    [16:14:51] B Mayfield: or manipulating your arousal through mental focus
    [16:15:04] B Mayfield: visualization is one method
    [16:15:14] skeeter_g: That is true Brian.
    [16:15:31] hlaser99: Or Rumel's CD as a guide...
    [16:15:42] B Mayfield: you may have heard that some that are at that point of no return...PONR ...actually SEE themselves ejaculating
    [16:15:51] rumel: Fantasy thoughts are good too.
    [16:16:12] ArcticWolves: when it fades away what is happening?? Are you ''trying'' to make it take you to the next level?
    [16:16:16] B Mayfield: I prefer ssing myself having a Super O....but then I know what a Super O looks and feels like
    [16:16:34] B Mayfield: I prefer using that is....ooops
    [16:16:53] B Mayfield: in this way one is ...."actualizing" the Super O
    [16:17:27] B Mayfield: again this can be done through technique as well
    [16:18:00] GeminiDon: AW trying to take it to the next level - dry orgasim... Suppose this is my probelm?
    [16:18:04] B Mayfield: but very often the wrong technique applied at the wrong time can extinguish sensation rather than build it
    [16:18:15] ArcticWolves: yes...
    [16:18:23] ArcticWolves: Don't force anything... Dont try to do anything
    [16:24:26] ArcticWolves: that's excellent just enjoy those feelings but don't expect them.. and don't force yourself to go over the edge
    [16:24:46] hlaser99: Down the rabbit hole . . .
    [16:24:56] ArcticWolves: waiting to go over edge seems interprets to me that you are expecting to go over the edge
    [16:24:56] hlaser99: Weeeeeeee!
    [16:24:58] B Mayfield: but there's nothing wrong with trying to mix it up either
    [16:25:03] rumel: You can't force yourself over the edge!
    [16:25:15] GeminiDon: AW your probably right - next time I'll try just go with the flow and see what happens
    [16:25:23] skeeter_g: GemInDon manipulate the buzz a bit.
    [16:25:35] skeeter_g: but dont puch it to hard.
    [16:25:44] skeeter_g: sorry push.
    [16:25:45] ArcticWolves: yup that's all you can doo... but you can have fun... vary your contractions a lil bit and see what happens... try holding a
    [16:25:47] rumel: Good strategy
    [16:25:47] ArcticWolves: few etc...
    [16:26:01] B Mayfield: change up something.....
    [16:26:02] hlaser99: Observe the feeling in your prostate and chill!
    [16:26:14] B Mayfield: again....look to focusing in a different way
    [16:26:24] skeeter_g: That works to hlaser
    [16:26:33] B Mayfield: focus on sensation......visualize....
    [16:26:33] ArcticWolves: most importantly love every moment of this wonderful pleasure... you're enjoying something most men never
    [16:26:38] ArcticWolves: thought was humanly capable
    [16:26:43] ArcticWolves: you have a secret ;)
    [16:27:02] rumel: Gemini, to Obi Wan Mayfield you listen!
    [16:27:16] hlaser99: LOL!
    [16:27:22] ArcticWolves: lol
    [16:27:30] skeeter_g: :laugh:
    [16:27:38] ArcticWolves: but yes, that's the right mindset gemini
    [16:27:40] hlaser99: Rumel-Yoda . . .
    [16:27:53] ArcticWolves: it doesn't seem like it would work by not forcing anything but you will be so amazed...
    [16:28:09] ArcticWolves: Just go with the flow and relax is the key
    [16:29:08] B Mayfield: flowing...letting what one normally associates with tensing up....
    [16:29:32] B Mayfield: and there is some of that too....
    [16:29:57] zeto34: i have a question. is it good to watch porn during a session? when i dont, i have fun for a while but then start to doze off.
    [16:30:02] ArcticWolves: Go with the flow... but love that flow... don't be discouraged... don't expect anything... don't force anything..
    [16:30:09] B Mayfield: but a lot of what this has to do with is accepting a totally different kind of orgasmic experince
    [16:30:15] ArcticWolves: do whatever you love doing and makes it feel good
    [16:30:19] zeto34: but when i do i cant stop myself from goin for a traditional orgasm
    [16:30:29] ArcticWolves: hmmm
    [16:30:35] B Mayfield: there's nothing wrong with it....if it works for you...go with it
    [16:30:51] ArcticWolves: the body likes an occasional traditional orgasm but if this is what it leads you to doing every time
    [16:30:54] ArcticWolves: it's hurting you then...
    [16:30:55] B Mayfield: well.....that's the rub
    [16:31:17] ArcticWolves: try exploring different paths/avenues/vacations
    [16:31:19] B Mayfield: you have a choice....either become more disciplined in how you use visual stimulation
    [16:31:25] hlaser99: I use Erotica to get my excitment up . . . then turn it off!
    [16:31:26] ArcticWolves: oops i mean journeys not vacations
    [16:31:29] B Mayfield: or find something else that arouses you
    [16:32:16] B Mayfield: it takes practice ....but I think in time you can find that "road less travelled "....with the porn
    [16:32:52] rumel: I'm with Hlaser , use the porn to ramp up your arousal, but then turn it off during the session, so you can focus on your
    [16:32:57] rumel: sensations.
    [16:33:11] B Mayfield: but will be able to do this without it....
    [16:33:15] ArcticWolves: two things are happening... first your aneros is working that prostate and your mind is loving it
    [16:33:30] ArcticWolves: however during the re-wiring process your mind is thinking traditional orgasm because you probably
    [16:33:43] ArcticWolves: have masturbated to porn throughout your life... I could be wrong I'm just assuming...
    [16:34:09] ArcticWolves: and your mind is reverting to traditional orgasm once it has it's stimulus... either try exploring other possibilities
    [16:34:22] ArcticWolves: or shut it off before your mind progams itself going into traditional orgasm
    [16:34:30] B Mayfield: men's bodies and minds are habituated to the traditional path
    [16:34:40] hlaser99: I also use audio erotica as well . . .
    [16:34:57] ArcticWolves: it's hurting your re-wiring if you have a traditional orgasm every time during a session
    [16:35:09] B Mayfield: what Rumel said is is very good for ramping arousal....
    [16:35:19] ArcticWolves: but it sure feels good with the aneros though... and that's all that it takes to get you interested
    [16:35:26] ArcticWolves: into what the future can bring
    [16:35:27] hlaser99: and of course Rumell's creation - audio!
    [16:35:40] B Mayfield: but at some point you want to transition to becoming aroused by the new sensations themselves!
    [16:36:08] B Mayfield: some time ago I wrote....that arousal is ITSELF arousing!
    [16:36:10] ArcticWolves: Yes, we are not trying to sale you anything... but Rumel's CD was created for noobies such as yourselves to get the hang of
    [16:36:17] ArcticWolves: relaxing and taking that path
    [16:36:28] hlaser99: Right, the thought of a dry orgasm!
    [16:36:56] B Mayfield: focusing on arousing
    [16:36:58] zeto34: i have heard some sample clips of rumels cd. it sounded pretty good. i might try that.
    [16:36:58] hlaser99: The site of an Aneros...
    [16:37:03] ArcticWolves: I highly recommend it to any beginner or veteran. The advice is so great and informative...
    [16:37:04] GeminiDon: Apparenlty the orgasm senstaion by masturbation is diffenret then the orgasm with the Aneros?
    [16:37:04] rumel: I think one needs to break the psychological link between traditional ejaculation and Aneros use.
    [16:37:39] B Mayfield: thinking...imagining yourself have this kind of orgasm is ....arousing
    [16:37:44] ArcticWolves: and the best thing about the CD is you can play it over and over again... it's like having a pro by your side 24/7
    [16:37:45] hlaser99: Very much so . . .
    [16:38:08] B Mayfield: two totally different experiences....
    [16:38:16] ArcticWolves: you can download the whole album or get the CD...
    [16:38:35] B Mayfield: what we're talking about here is non-ejaculatory orgasm
    [16:38:51] ArcticWolves: yes Gemini, there is a whole lot more involved in a orgasm with the aneros...
    [16:38:58] hlaser99: right!
    [16:38:59] B Mayfield: potentially a more powerful experience
    [16:39:00] zeto34: so after a while i can be aroused just by thinking about me being aroused
    [16:39:15] B Mayfield: YES
    [16:39:16] rumel: YES!
    [16:39:18] hlaser99: exactly!
    [16:39:23] ArcticWolves: to tell you the truth zeto, YESSSSSSS!!!!
    [16:39:24] B Mayfield: absolutely.....I do it all the time!
    [16:39:25] zeto34: cool
    [16:39:40] ArcticWolves: lol mayfield gets aroused watching fireworks now
    [16:39:42] ArcticWolves: LOL
    [16:39:50] hlaser99: Me too B!
    [16:39:51] ArcticWolves: oops that's his secret
    [16:39:54] B Mayfield: the point where you finally have a Super will have memory of it that you can then use....
    [16:40:13] B Mayfield:'s true....last 4 th of July!
    [16:40:16] ArcticWolves: sorry mayfield :unhappy: :blushin: :blush: :biggrin: :bigtongue:
    [16:40:29] B Mayfield: lol
    [16:40:38] hlaser99: And you know what htis feels like when you approach it!
    [16:40:56] B Mayfield: right
    [16:41:13] GeminiDon: Thanks guys for your help. I do have to leave, but will check out that CD
    [16:41:29] hlaser99: Do it!
    [16:41:36] B Mayfield: if there's one thing I could tell a newbie prior to his first Super O....
    [16:41:44] B Mayfield: take care GeminiDon
    [16:41:45] hlaser99: ByeGemini!
    [16:42:30] hlaser99: What's the one thing???
    [16:42:31] B Mayfield: that is....completely immerse yourself in the experience when it happens to you......
    [16:42:39] B Mayfield: don't fear it......go with it.....
    [16:42:47] ArcticWolves: Gemini, here's the CD link if you're interested... It has some audio samples
    [16:42:48] ArcticWolves:
    [16:42:57] ArcticWolves: oops i wasn't fast enough
    [16:42:58] ArcticWolves: oh well
    [16:43:02] B Mayfield: and most importantly.....MEMORIZE IT !
    [16:43:15] ArcticWolves: well that was fun
    [16:43:21] hlaser99: Make it your lover!
    [16:43:31] B Mayfield: yeah
    [16:43:41] ArcticWolves: hehehe you're still here zeto I commend you for staying the whole time :kiss:
    [16:43:51] ArcticWolves: :wub:
    [16:43:56] B Mayfield: ya hear that Zeto?
    [16:44:05] zeto34: this is intresting
    [16:44:10] ArcticWolves: :grin: :laugh: :tongue:
    [16:44:53] B Mayfield: the reason I say that many have written that they have held back...even after pursuing this for so long.....when it
    [16:44:58] B Mayfield: finally comes to them....
    [16:45:22] B Mayfield: part of this is that the sensations are SO powerful...and in some ways so different
    [16:45:23] ArcticWolves: lol i think I'm going to pee my bed sometimes when i realize it's the p-waves coming on!
    [16:45:55] B Mayfield: use a pad there
    [16:45:56] hlaser99: LOL! Pee- waves!
    [16:45:58] rumel: I think there is a fear of loss of control here, "LETTING GO" is scary.
    [16:46:12] ArcticWolves: lmao brian
    [16:46:23] B Mayfield: I know what you're talking about though...that is a sensation that one often feels
    [16:46:31] ArcticWolves: yup
    [16:46:59] B Mayfield: yes.....loss of control is part of's also fear of the a minute , where is this going?
    [16:47:04] ArcticWolves: then it feels like I'm going to shoot off the biggest most incredible load of my life!!
    [16:47:14] B Mayfield: lol
    [16:47:17] ArcticWolves: awww i love it
    [16:47:33] B Mayfield: I would just encourage really have a sense of abandon about it....
    [16:47:49] ArcticWolves: zeto pretty soon you'll be able to go in the car and have all these wonderful sensations
    [16:47:52] B Mayfield: it's the best way to really internalize the experience...
    [16:47:55] ArcticWolves: you'll be driving and all of a sudden...
    [16:47:58] ArcticWolves: :P
    [16:48:07] rumel: Surrender to yourself.
    [16:48:18] ArcticWolves: Brian nailed it on the head though again... MEMORIZE what it FEELS like
    [16:48:23] B Mayfield: there you go....
    [16:48:25] zeto34: that would be awesome AW
    [16:48:29] B Mayfield: yep
    [16:48:51] B Mayfield: another some guys have issues about this not being....
    [16:48:54] ArcticWolves: you just have to experience to believe it... and it only takes that one experience to memorize how awesome
    [16:48:55] B Mayfield: MALE
    [16:48:55] ArcticWolves: that felt
    [16:49:17] ArcticWolves: It's the feminine side of us it's our G-SPOT (P-Spot)
    [16:49:35] ArcticWolves: lol just kidding.. let Brian talk
    [16:49:41] B Mayfield: one just has to realize that this is just another capacity that MEN have....
    [16:50:04] B Mayfield: no....I'm not....I have no problem getting in touch with my feminine side....
    [16:50:07] ArcticWolves: I like mine better Brian :biggrin:
    [16:50:24] hlaser99: a God given right to awaken this ability!!!
    [16:50:25] B Mayfield: cause really what we're talking about is "wiring".....
    [16:50:33] ArcticWolves: yeah
    [16:50:37] B Mayfield: we all have and women....
    [16:50:44] ArcticWolves: yup
    [16:50:56] B Mayfield: women have the capacity for these orgasms as do men
    [16:51:07] B Mayfield: men can ejaculate as can women....
    [16:51:25] ArcticWolves: yup and it's because of me seeing a video of a women shaking uncontrollably
    [16:51:41] ArcticWolves: that got me interested into thinking.. if a woman can have it why can't a man have it
    [16:51:46] B Mayfield: and squirting all ove the place...yeah
    [16:52:03] ArcticWolves: the next day was seen me having a mind blowing spasming full body orgasm
    [16:52:27] B Mayfield: with or without socks?
    [16:52:33] ArcticWolves: with socks :P
    [16:52:35] ArcticWolves: you and my socks
    [16:52:42] B Mayfield: couldn't resist lol
    [16:52:44] ArcticWolves: i'll send you a pair with my autograph on it
    [16:52:50] ArcticWolves: :cool:
    [16:52:55] B Mayfield: it's just so....YOU lol
    [16:53:03] B Mayfield: LMAO
    [16:53:20] B Mayfield: I have to say one thing thoug
    [16:53:24] B Mayfield: though
    [16:53:50] B Mayfield: Redbeard is going to give you a run for your money with his JOCKSTRAP!
    [16:53:53] B Mayfield: lol
    [16:54:08] ArcticWolves: 7 minutes left :'( I wish we could go longer... Going to miss you all!! :unhappy: :unsure: :sad: :confused:
    [16:54:24] rumel: :laugh:
    [16:54:28] ArcticWolves: nah redbeard is quite funny
    [16:54:29] B Mayfield: where'd the time go eh?
    [16:54:52] ArcticWolves: i laughed so hard when I saw his leg go shaking all over the place
    [16:55:04] B Mayfield: listen....I give both of you a lot of credit for putting this out there like you've done
    [16:55:14] B Mayfield: all kidding aside....I think it's great!
    [16:55:14] ArcticWolves: yep
    [16:55:25] ArcticWolves: it's hard though which is why you don't see mine
    [16:55:26] B Mayfield: I know a lot of guys have appreciated it...
    [16:55:31] ArcticWolves: which is why i don't record alot
    [16:55:37] ArcticWolves: the feeling of having to perform is always there
    [16:55:48] ArcticWolves: some reason I just can't shut that out
    [16:55:55] ArcticWolves: i know the camera is there and I know it's being recorded
    [16:55:56] rumel: Yes AW you have more courage than I in that respect.
    [16:56:05] B Mayfield: I've tried to document it myself many times....
    [16:56:21] ArcticWolves: and that hurts me in my sessions
    [16:56:23] B Mayfield: never successfully....the videotaping always effects the process...
    [16:56:29] ArcticWolves: so i just shut it off and enjoy myself
    [16:56:49] ArcticWolves: but I am getting ready for another one
    [16:56:57] ArcticWolves: and I'm just going to forget about everything
    [16:57:07] B Mayfield: it's like....what a scientist goes through trying to set up an experiment where his observation doesn't effect the results...
    [16:57:19] rumel: Laws of physics, the observer affecting the observation.
    [16:57:29] B Mayfield: all the power to ya ma' friend
    [16:58:03] B Mayfield: there is a term for it....can't recall.....
    [16:58:09] ArcticWolves: thanks
    [16:58:32] ArcticWolves: I really appreciate though everything rumel, darwin, brian and any other contributors have written in the WIKI
    [16:58:38] [email][/email]: hey everyone, time has flown by once again during the chat event :smile:
    [16:58:57] B Mayfield: hey...we had a good time doing it too...
    [16:59:00] ArcticWolves: without the WIKI i wouldn't have known such pleasure was possible
    [16:59:05] B Mayfield: I hope that it's helped people...
    [16:59:14] zeto34: thanks for your help everybody. see you later
    [16:59:22] [email][/email]: it was great, glad you guys were all able to participate, just a note that we will try the all day event
    [16:59:26] ArcticWolves: Oh and thanks rumel and friends for the best CD of my life...
    [16:59:32] B Mayfield: Rumel and I were looking the other day....there are some pages that have gotten 50,000 hits so far!
    [16:59:35] ArcticWolves: so relaxing to listen to after a stressful day at work
    [16:59:38] hlaser99: Bye Zeto!
    [16:59:40] [email][/email]: open chat rooms in a couple weeks for the whole weekend
    [16:59:45] B Mayfield: bye Zeto!
    [16:59:51] rumel: Your very Welcom!
    [16:59:56] ArcticWolves: Take care zeto
    [17:00:04] ArcticWolves: Good luck and hope to hear from you soon!!
    [17:00:05] B Mayfield: Hey that would be great....people could float in and out at will
    [17:00:09] hlaser99: Really???
    [17:00:17] B Mayfield: good idea support!
    [17:00:33] hlaser99: thanks!
    [17:00:36] B Mayfield: I think one thing that really effects this is TIME ZONE
    [17:00:44] rumel: Yes good idea!
    [17:00:45] hlaser99: Support!
    [17:00:46] [email][/email]: i think the best way is for everyone to announce when they might be on
    [17:00:51] ArcticWolves: Hey I want to be a beta tester for the next lovely creation... how do I sign up LOL lol
    [17:01:03] [email][/email]: agree, still experimenting with the times
    [17:01:05] hlaser99: And O-Zone . . .
    [17:01:16] [email][/email]: for the next regular event we'll probably move it back to 10am PST
    [17:01:37] ArcticWolves: 10Am to 11pm would be great
    [17:01:40] hlaser99: Bye ALL!!!
    [17:01:46] B Mayfield: yeah probably better for some...
    [17:01:51] ArcticWolves: should give everyone a chance to be here
    [17:01:55] B Mayfield: cya
    [17:01:59] [email][/email]: bye hlaser!
    [17:02:01] ArcticWolves: in regards to time zone... well take care everyone... it's been a blast
    [17:02:11] hlaser99: Bye
    [17:02:31] rumel: Bye H
    [17:02:35] [email][/email]: thanks again all, we hope this was a nice way to start your days!
    [17:02:36] B Mayfield: you's going to another hot one down here in So. Cal...have a good one!
    [17:02:36] ArcticWolves: thanks for the help rumel
    [17:02:47] ArcticWolves: yeah it's hot already!
    [17:02:49] rumel: You bet
    [17:02:51] [email][/email]: hope to see you all again at the next one!
    [17:03:08] ArcticWolves: Rumel you have an instant messenger? PM your details on the forum
    [17:03:21] B Mayfield: you too....thanks for all of your help Support !
    [17:03:21] [email][/email]: bye everyone!
    [17:03:25] ArcticWolves: I wan't to ask you a few more questions on the natural jelly
    [17:03:27] B Mayfield: bye
  • Well guys,
    Would have loved to be there for the whole chat, but the Dish Network repair man pulled me away, and I just got back to late!
    Transcript looked like a good chat!!

    See you all next time!!
  • TbazTbaz
    Posts: 11
    Good discussion, I want to attend one of those..ddin't know this one was happening :)
  • Tbaz,
    We now seem to be holding the chats on a regular bases.
    We seem to have settled on Saturday's at 10:00am once a month, although this one was at 8:00am.
    Check the Chat Center from time to time to find out the next date. There was talk of an open chat, but it has not yet been scheduled.
    The Chats are really a bunch of fun to attend!! :D