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Newbies Chat Event Transcript - 9/27/2008
  • Hi Everyone,

    Here is the (mostly) complete transcript of the newbies chat event. It looks like zeto34 got some great advice, he reported that reached his first super-o after learning some techniques from the experts!

    thanks,
    Aneros Support


    [15:04:21] B Mayfield: that's how it works on my Mac too
    [15:04:32] ArcticWolves: well i'll just occasionally copy and paste that every now and then
    [15:04:44] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: as you know, this chat event is directed to new users or those who are interested but have questions
    [15:04:53] hlaser99: So, Bigger IS better???
    [15:05:04] ArcticWolves: boooo
    [15:05:13] ArcticWolves: well...
    [15:05:18] ArcticWolves: smaller is better :P
    [15:05:39] ArcticWolves: bah, you're confusing me hlaser i'm going to throw some water on my face brbr
    [15:05:53] hlaser99: Any Aneros in a storm . . .
    [15:06:02] B Mayfield: it's all good!
    [15:06:06] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: let's start with some introductions again - I think zeto34 is our newcomer to that chat events today
    [15:06:24] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: Brian let's start with you as AW will be right back
    [15:06:25] zeto34: hi
    [15:07:07] B Mayfield: Zeto....tell us a bit about yourself....
    [15:07:41] B Mayfield: what's your Aneros model of choice....how long you've had it etc.
    [15:07:44] zeto34: i go the aneros about 2 months ago but havent been using it much.
    [15:07:53] zeto34: helix
    [15:08:14] B Mayfield: why's that?
    [15:08:35] rumel: How can we help you today?
    [15:08:37] ArcticWolves: ok back...
    [15:08:39] zeto34: i started using it more in the last week and am starting to get some pretty good feellings
    [15:08:56] B Mayfield: good
    [15:09:13] hlaser99: From where do you hail??? (live)
    [15:09:25] zeto34: virgina
    [15:09:29] ArcticWolves: and How old are you?
    [15:09:38] hlaser99: cool
    [15:09:47] zeto34: just turned 22 yesterday
    [15:09:52] ArcticWolves: w00t
    [15:09:59] B Mayfield: Happy Birthday!
    [15:10:05] zeto34: thanks
    [15:10:07] ArcticWolves: Well Happy Birthday
    [15:10:14] rumel: Yes Happy BD!
    [15:10:27] ArcticWolves: so how did you find out about the aneros? If I may ask...
    [15:10:31] hlaser99: ditto...
    [15:10:37] ArcticWolves: Good Morning Skeeter!!
    [15:10:52] skeeter_g: Morning!!
    [15:11:00] zeto34: i dont remember just stumbled across it on the internet
    [15:11:18] ArcticWolves: excellent :)
    [15:11:30] B Mayfield: have you had any prior experience with anal play?
    [15:12:06] zeto34: well i had stuck fingers up there before while masturbaiting
    [15:12:36] B Mayfield: and it felt good to you I assume...yes/
    [15:12:37] ArcticWolves: fingers?? as in more than one
    [15:13:04] zeto34: not more than one at a time but used diffrent fingers seperately
    [15:13:20] ArcticWolves: good good... continue...
    [15:13:54] B Mayfield: don't want to seem like we're "grilling' you here...just trying to get background
    [15:14:07] hlaser99: Any questions about the Aneros???
    [15:14:08] zeto34: i read about aneros and it seemed like fun so i though i would try it
    [15:14:09] B Mayfield: so do you have any questions at this point?
    [15:14:41] zeto34: no not really i just hoped to pick up on some pointers
    [15:14:49] ArcticWolves: What's different now then when you first got it?? What made you start liking it more???
    [15:15:16] rumel: Have you read through the WIKI?
    [15:15:29] ArcticWolves: and by the way excellent choice on the Helix...
    [15:15:35] zeto34: i guess i just got better at it. at first it didnt do much but now it feels much better
    [15:15:44] zeto34: yes i have read the wiki
    [15:16:00] skeeter_g: Well zeto34 you have come to the right place... ask us something, anything that comes to mind.
    [15:16:00] ArcticWolves: well that much better feeling is what you want... We are glad to hear that!!
    [15:16:21] ArcticWolves: Did you have any particular questions from the WIKI?
    [15:18:00] zeto34: what is a good lube. i have been using vasline but i have read on the forum a lot of people dont like that. why
    [15:18:15] ArcticWolves: lol rumel can answer this one
    [15:19:08] rumel: To me Vaseline is too thick and a petroleum based product.
    [15:19:32] rumel: I prefer a more natural product.
    [15:19:50] zeto34: is petroleum based bad?
    [15:20:04] B Mayfield: oil based products are absorbed into the tissues also
    [15:20:11] rumel: Your decision!
    [15:20:21] B Mayfield: with respect to them being bad...there is some controversy on that
    [15:20:45] skeeter_g: i'm with rumel a more natural product is the best way to go.
    [15:20:47] ArcticWolves: http://aneros.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2838
    [15:20:50] B Mayfield: many prefer something that is more natural
    [15:20:54] rumel: Yes ther is no hard evidence against Vaseline.
    [15:21:00] ArcticWolves: Beeswax ftw
    [15:21:10] B Mayfield: although the water based lubes aren't necessarily naturally derived
    [15:21:42] B Mayfield: they are metabolized by the body naturally
    [15:22:02] B Mayfield: glycerine....as a sugar for instance
    [15:22:32] B Mayfield: again...much of it is about preference
    [15:22:35] zeto34: ok thanks everyone
    [15:23:01] ArcticWolves: OUCH, a lube with glycerin in it burns for me... at first it didn't but with prolonged use I developed a burning from it
    [15:23:16] ArcticWolves: Try finding a lube w/o glycerin if you go water based
    [15:23:25] skeeter_g: Maximus is one that is mentioned often in the forum, and is totally water based
    [15:23:27] rumel: I am becoming more sensitive to the glycerin component (urge to purge factor)
    [15:23:40] B Mayfield: yes...I like that one myself
    [15:23:54] skeeter_g: no glycerin
    [15:24:07] hlaser99: Why dont we all just enter our favorit lube???
    [15:24:19] B Mayfield: there more non-glycerin water based lubes coming onto the market all of the time
    [15:24:41] skeeter_g: That is good to hear brian
    [15:24:43] B Mayfield: it's the NEW THANG!
    [15:25:20] B Mayfield: I've been at several of the trade shows recently....and most of the manufacturers are offering this
    [15:25:22] rumel: I like 'Natural Jelly'
    [15:25:31] ArcticWolves: Alright my favorite lube is Liquid Silk.. Feels excellent and I never have to reapply once I start 2 hours later
    [15:25:35] hlaser99: I use Albolene and for rubber toys I use Boy Butter H2O
    [15:26:16] skeeter_g: For me I have two favorites, for heavy duty sessions, I use my natural home made one. For off the shelf Maximus.
    [15:26:17] ArcticWolves: Rumel uses a concoction *spelling error* that he made himself using a combination of beeswax, vitamine e oil, shea butter and
    [15:26:18] B Mayfield: Boy Butter oil based is cool too...for those who like oil based
    [15:26:21] ArcticWolves: almond oil...
    [15:26:50] ArcticWolves: and let me tell you if you want all natural then rumel's is the best way to go
    [15:27:06] ArcticWolves: it feels just like petroleum jelly but no petroleum and it's healthy for you!!
    [15:27:10] B Mayfield: yes....he makes it in large barrels out in back of his house !!!
    [15:27:18] ArcticWolves: ROFL yup
    [15:27:20] B Mayfield: lol
    [15:27:26] rumel: :bigtongue:
    [15:27:29] ArcticWolves: Rumel I'm going to buy one from you :P
    [15:27:39] ArcticWolves: you have to get the besswax just right :P
    [15:27:47] ArcticWolves: lmao you should have seen my first attempt... :D
    [15:27:53] B Mayfield: buy it by the pallette !
    [15:27:54] hlaser99: :laugh:
    [15:28:22] skeeter_g: :laugh:
    [15:28:28] hlaser99: Ok, I assume this isn't Smuckers???
    [15:28:40] hlaser99: Where do you get it???
    [15:28:44] ArcticWolves: lol
    [15:28:48] ArcticWolves: you make it
    [15:28:51] rumel: Yes but getting it from the bees is tricky they keep stinging me!
    [15:29:08] B Mayfield: Arctic Wolves.....just an aside.....do you have any plans to do any more videos with your socks?
    [15:29:10] ArcticWolves: you have to go to a beehive dangit rumel took my idea lol
    [15:29:27] ArcticWolves: I was letting redbeard take over for awhile ;)
    [15:29:43] ArcticWolves: his videos seem interesting :)
    [15:30:02] skeeter_g: Yes it does AW
    [15:30:03] hlaser99: Had a girl with a bee hive once???
    [15:30:03] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: hi everyone, zeto34 has introduced himself, why doesn't everyone else do the same?
    [15:30:33] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: age, location, and experience with your Aneros?
    [15:30:37] ArcticWolves: Yes I'm going to do a video within the next few weeks with my ''SOCKS'' :)
    [15:30:43] B Mayfield: you know I was thinking that if there was ever an Aneros Hall of Fame....should probably have those socks hangin' there! lol
    [15:30:57] ArcticWolves: HAHAHAHA
    [15:31:01] skeeter_g: Not the socks!! :laugh:
    [15:31:06] B Mayfield: a classic !
    [15:31:07] ArcticWolves: Well let's go alphabetically
    [15:31:14] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: let's start with Artic Wolves, also known as "two socks"
    [15:31:21] B Mayfield: yes....just like at the Hard Rock Cafe
    [15:31:30] ArcticWolves: Support has asked a reasonable request and we shall fulfill it going in alphabetical order... shhh everyone until this is
    [15:31:31] ArcticWolves: done with
    [15:31:48] B Mayfield: that's right "two socks"
    [15:32:21] ArcticWolves: I just turned 23 years old 2 weeks ago, I am from Southern California, and I have lots of anal experience since i was 18
    [15:32:21] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: okay, AW go for it :smile:
    [15:32:50] ArcticWolves: mainly just sex toys and had my first Superorgasm back in April 2008. Haven't turned back ever since... **END**
    [15:33:05] ArcticWolves: ooo wait... one more thing
    [15:33:36] ArcticWolves: I own the Progasm, Eupho, MGX, and Advanced Peridise set... **END**
    [15:33:57] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: great! thanks AW. Brian?
    [15:34:14] hlaser99: Hi, I am a A user since 2005, 60 YO, from Central Florida, Oen em' ALL, Aneros, KSMO, Still Learning??? (I hope!)
    [15:35:08] B Mayfield: Hi all, my name is Brian Mayfield, I’ve been a forum member for over 5 years and a lurker before that.
    [15:35:15] hlaser99: Own
    [15:35:24] B Mayfield: . I’ve written extensively in the forum and was one of the chief contributors and developers the WIKI with Rumel and Darwin
    15:36:00] rumel: rumel here, 61, 18 months use w/ Aneros, Sacramento CA., producer of "HypnAerosession".
    [15:36:50] B Mayfield: ooops......I'm 50 , and I live in Southern California
    [15:36:51] rumel: You're up Skeeter
    [15:37:08] skeeter_g: I'm 59, live up in Sonoma County CA. in the wine country, and have over 2 year experience... well... a hell of a lot more...
    [15:37:10] hlaser99: Oh, I was a lurker too!
    [15:37:27] ArcticWolves: LOL
    [15:37:27] skeeter_g: More anel play experience for sure.
    [15:37:39] skeeter_g: :laugh:
    [15:37:54] ArcticWolves: lol
    [15:37:58] B Mayfield: ever been to the French Laundry?
    [15:38:05] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: great! thanks everyone for the intros :smile:
    [15:38:08] ArcticWolves: ?
    [15:38:28] ArcticWolves: Non monsieur
    [15:38:30] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: i'll throw it back to you guys
    [15:38:42] skeeter_g: Nope... fill me in?
    [15:38:55] B Mayfield: actually Yountville
    [15:39:16] skeeter_g: Yep many times...
    [15:39:30] skeeter_g: good food in Yountville.
    [15:39:55] rumel: I wonder what happened to the newbies who signed up to attend today?
    [15:40:17] zeto34: am i the only newbie here
    [15:40:22] B Mayfield: they're out there having their morning sessions!
    [15:40:30] skeeter_g: I was originally from Southern Cal, but liked wine!!
    [15:40:46] skeeter_g: born in L.A.
    [15:40:50] B Mayfield: my bro lives up in Yountville
    [15:40:55] hlaser99: Yea! 5 experienced Guys jumping on poorZeto???
    [15:41:01] ArcticWolves: It appears that way zeto...
    [15:41:09] ArcticWolves: stick around the party is just getting started :)
    [15:41:12] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: zeto it looks like you are the only newbie, several more did RSVP
    [15:41:20] hlaser99: We need more nubs...
    [15:41:30] ArcticWolves: you nub
    [15:41:33] ArcticWolves: we already have one
    [15:41:36] ArcticWolves: ;P
    [15:41:39] ArcticWolves: :P
    [15:41:40] rumel: I'm not jumping him...No way!
    [15:41:42] skeeter_g: We always seem to have fun!!
    [15:41:49] ArcticWolves: :tongue:
    [15:41:49] B Mayfield: lol
    [15:42:04] ArcticWolves: :happpy:
    [15:42:19] ArcticWolves: :kiss: :laugh: :ohmy:
    [15:42:29] B Mayfield: had another hands-free last night!
    [15:42:52] hlaser99: Did whe tie you up???
    [15:42:57] hlaser99: she
    [15:43:06] skeeter_g: do tell brian!! :laugh:
    [15:43:06] ArcticWolves: meh wait, I want to here what a session is like from beginning to end with zeto??
    [15:43:12] ArcticWolves: see if we can give him any pointers
    [15:43:17] B Mayfield: acapella my friend
    [15:43:22] skeeter_g: I bet it was great!!!
    [15:43:35] ArcticWolves: wow hear*
    [15:43:42] hlaser99: Oh, Italian!
    [15:44:13] ArcticWolves: sorry
    [15:44:16] ArcticWolves: :blushin:
    [15:44:27] B Mayfield: np....
    [15:44:28] hlaser99: k...
    [15:44:30] ArcticWolves: :blush:
    [15:44:41] B Mayfield: I think we all want to do good by him
    [15:44:44] zeto34: i dont really have questions. i thought more noobs would be here to ask questions i did not think of
    [15:44:47] ArcticWolves: yeah
    [15:44:59] ArcticWolves: I got one for rummel
    [15:45:05] skeeter_g: We were hoping also.
    [15:45:12] B Mayfield: it's luck of the draw sometimes
    [15:45:21] ArcticWolves: How in the heck am I supposed to get my naturally jelly out of my glass jar with dispenser
    [15:45:33] ArcticWolves: if it won't come out the dispenser
    [15:45:41] ArcticWolves: and I can't get my finger into the bottom of the jar :(
    [15:45:48] ArcticWolves: hehehe too much beeswax
    [15:45:51] B Mayfield: now THAT's a technical question!
    [15:46:16] hlaser99: Call Tech Support!
    [15:46:19] ArcticWolves: but the question is how do I measure my beeswax according to your recipe?
    [15:46:20] B Mayfield: polysorbate 80
    [15:46:22] rumel: Use a small spatula.
    [15:46:55] ArcticWolves: all's I got is a knife and slightly slivering away some after I realized how little is needed to go a long ways
    [15:47:11] rumel: Youcan melt it and pour into a tablespoon.
    [15:47:20] ArcticWolves: oh
    [15:47:27] ArcticWolves: hhaaha
    [15:47:32] ArcticWolves: why didn't i think of that
    [15:47:48] B Mayfield: see....you need to be making this in the large Oak Barrels....they way that Rumel does
    [15:48:08] ArcticWolves: One more question...How do you wash it off when you're done
    [15:48:13] ArcticWolves: I've been having trouble with that one
    [15:48:14] rumel: You are right a little beeswax goes a long ways.
    [15:48:27] hlaser99: And the Brewerys...
    [15:48:27] ArcticWolves: the oil and beeswax is so strong
    [15:48:43] skeeter_g: Hey AW see my post on some little wide mouth jars from Cost Plus
    [15:48:46] B Mayfield: let Aunt Bee do it for you!
    [15:48:47] ArcticWolves: I had to take cornstarch to get it off
    [15:48:48] B Mayfield: lol
    [15:48:54] rumel: Yes cleanup of utensils is problematic.
    [15:48:57] ArcticWolves: rofl and let me tell you i had a lot of explaining to do
    [15:48:58] skeeter_g: they work great for natural lubes.
    [15:49:47] B Mayfield: guys...I'm getting silly....low blood sugar...got to get some food...brb
    [15:50:07] ArcticWolves: no joke I had all this white powder around my ''tool'' it was embarassing... no other alternative
    [15:50:11] ArcticWolves: soap wouldn't take it off
    [15:50:13] rumel: Boiling water and paper towels works pretty well.
    [15:50:16] ArcticWolves: it was water proof wow
    [15:50:33] ArcticWolves: uhm
    [15:50:36] skeeter_g: One of the reasons I use the Shea Butter is that it is a bit easer to clean up.
    [15:51:12] ArcticWolves: sorry rumel I used the recipe for something else and didn't put it on the aneros just yet..
    [15:51:17] rumel: Then soap and water after.
    [15:51:29] hlaser99: And you stick that up your ass???
    [15:51:39] ArcticWolves: lol hlaser
    [15:51:42] ArcticWolves: shhh don't be funny
    [15:51:59] ArcticWolves: it would have to bend 180 degrees for that
    [15:52:27] ArcticWolves: so hot water, paper towels then soap and water?
    [15:52:41] rumel: Yes.
    [15:53:05] ArcticWolves: it seems much stonger and heavier duty than petroleum jelly
    [15:53:24] rumel: The beeswax is tenascious stuff, thats why it holds well to the Aneros.
    [15:53:25] ArcticWolves: but it feels just like it how awesome
    [15:53:36] hlaser99: I'll stick with whale blubber???
    [15:53:50] ArcticWolves: ROFL hlaser
    [15:54:19] ArcticWolves: it holds well to anything
    [15:54:29] rumel: You can adjust the viscosity by reducing the beeswax proportions.
    [15:54:56] ArcticWolves: yes but I was making a small amount
    [15:55:05] ArcticWolves: I am sold now... i love the feel but I want to make more...
    [15:55:47] ArcticWolves: and your smaller portion recipe is hard to calculate if I want to say... feel something about the size of a glass vaseline j
    [15:55:48] ArcticWolves: jar
    [15:55:48] rumel: A little of this stuff lasts a long time and goes a long ways.
    [15:56:06] hlaser99: Why not market it with the CD, Rumel???
    [15:56:29] ArcticWolves: the question than comes to how do I know how much beeswax to use if I up the recipe>?? I would measure
    [15:56:30] hlaser99: Small jars of it!
    [15:56:38] ArcticWolves: the beeswax in a tablespoon by melting it i guess
    [15:56:39] rumel: FDA approvals required.
    [15:57:04] hlaser99: Food or Drug???
    [15:57:11] ArcticWolves: ok sorry for all the questions rumel
    [15:57:22] ArcticWolves: thanks for the help...
    [15:57:37] ArcticWolves: Npsion, welcome to the Aneros Chat Center!!
    [15:57:41] rumel: Thats OK, that is what the Chat session is all about.
    [15:57:51] nPsion: hi everyone
    [15:58:02] hlaser99: Hey Dude!
    [15:58:02] rumel: Hello
    [15:58:04] ArcticWolves: hi
    [15:58:07] zeto34: hi nPsion
    [15:58:24] rumel: How canwe help you today?
    [15:58:38] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: welcome nPsion to the chat event!
    [15:58:55] nPsion: well, I came to the last chat event, I'm still trying to get my feet wet I guess
    [15:59:09] ArcticWolves: oh yeah...
    [15:59:24] nPsion: but I did have kind of a strange question, if that is ok
    [15:59:45] rumel: Ask
    [15:59:48] hlaser99: We are ALL strange here!
    [15:59:57] ArcticWolves: However strange it may be it may seem strange that we can help you with it!
    [16:00:21] nPsion: I"ve only had three sessions so far, and I'm working down the path and rewiring and all that
    [16:00:41] nPsion: so far, nothing near a super o or anything, no spasms, and that's fine by me, I know it will take time
    [16:01:11] nPsion: so each session ended in a traditional orgasm, but when I approached climax, the aneros would slide out and fall to the floor
    [16:01:19] nPsion: is that normal, or has anyone else experienced that?
    [16:01:58] hlaser99: What position are you in???
    [16:02:35] ArcticWolves: As you were approaching climax it slid out? So it wasn't during climax, correct?
    [16:02:38] nPsion: I usually try lying on my stomach, but then move to kneeling back on my ankles or kneeling in an upward position
    [16:03:07] nPsion: well, just as I was getting to climax, but before ejaculation begins
    [16:03:10] ArcticWolves: well as you know gravity will be your enemy in that position...
    [16:03:11] rumel: At orgasm your sphincter is spasming and letting go of its hold, I think that should be considered normal.
    [16:04:02] hlaser99: Have you tried sitting or on your back???
    [16:04:10] ArcticWolves: what you need to understand is how much things are happening just before orgasm...rumel got it on the nail
    [16:04:40] nPsion: I could hold the aneros in while kneeling, it was just approaching orgasm, but I guess with my sphincter spasming
    [16:04:43] nPsion: that makes sense
    [16:04:50] ArcticWolves: yup
    [16:05:09] ArcticWolves: it's called involuntary muscle movement and you can't control it once you reach the PONR
    [16:05:15] nPsion: I have tried sitting, but I kept bumping the handle and tab so I didn't really like that
    [16:05:33] ArcticWolves: try doing what hlaser said... another position... as that position seems to have a lot of gravity
    [16:05:43] ArcticWolves: try laying on your back
    [16:05:44] rumel: That's why a lot of guys cut the handle off.
    [16:05:59] ArcticWolves: lol rumel
    [16:06:32] ArcticWolves: the position you're in seems to have gravity working against you...
    [16:06:58] rumel: Yeah, gravity sucks!
    [16:07:14] nPsion: yeah, and eventually I'll be moving away from traditional orgasms, but that's just where I've been during my few sessions
    [16:07:18] hlaser99: LOL
    [16:08:23] ArcticWolves: All's I can tell you is just don't make it a habit everytime with the aneros
    [16:08:35] hlaser99: Try on back feet flat on bed and keep the aneros between the mattress and you...
    [16:09:14] B Mayfield: hello
    [16:09:23] nPsion: ok, I"ll give that shot, see if that position works better for me
    [16:09:25] hlaser99: Hi Gemini!
    [16:09:32] ArcticWolves: Good Morning, GeminiDon Wlecome to the Chat Center!!
    [16:09:39] zeto34: hello gemini don
    [16:09:40] ArcticWolves: Welcome*
    [16:09:50] nPsion: I was never really comfortable on my side, so I guess I've just been looking for a position that willw ork for me
    [16:10:05] rumel: Hello G
    [16:10:08] ArcticWolves: I love your attitude... so explorative
    [16:10:17] hlaser99: Back is my most successful!
    [16:10:22] ArcticWolves: you'll go far in the future in regards to your aneros sessions
    [16:10:25] B Mayfield: have you tried kneeling?
    [16:10:26] skeeter_g: Hi Sorry guys... have a dish network guy here fixing it. been away for a few.
    [16:10:26] GeminiDon: Thanks for the welcome... Good Morning
    [16:10:37] nPsion: thanks, I certainly hope so
    [16:10:46] skeeter_g: Welcome guys.
    [16:10:57] hlaser99: ok
    [16:11:06] rumel: G how can we help you today?
    [16:11:24] ArcticWolves: lol Skeeter, did you engage in an aneros chat with the cable guy?
    [16:11:25] ArcticWolves: j/k
    [16:11:37] ArcticWolves: :huh: :unsure: :blush: :blushin: :biggrin:
    [16:11:58] skeeter_g: Oh boy.. well....no... :laugh:
    [16:12:08] ArcticWolves: lol uhoh
    [16:12:47] ArcticWolves: So Gemini, if you have any questions... Anything... just feel free to ask away!!
    [16:13:06] GeminiDon: Seems I can get just to the edige of an O, but then it fads aaway. Any suggestions?
    [16:13:19] ArcticWolves: Orgasm or Super Orgasm?
    [16:13:40] skeeter_g: It will come GeminiDon
    [16:13:58] skeeter_g: sound like your body is just not there yet.
    [16:14:10] rumel: Stay relaxed, don't try to force the situation the feelings will return.
    [16:14:12] B Mayfield: you have choice...you can try using technique to get you there
    [16:14:26] skeeter_g: yep
    [16:14:27] B Mayfield: a different contraction.....breathing etc...
    [16:14:49] ArcticWolves: Sliding... Deeper .... Now...
    [16:14:51] B Mayfield: or manipulating your arousal through mental focus
    [16:15:04] B Mayfield: visualization is one method
    [16:15:14] skeeter_g: That is true Brian.
    [16:15:31] hlaser99: Or Rumel's CD as a guide...
    [16:15:42] B Mayfield: you may have heard that some that are at that point of no return...PONR ...actually SEE themselves ejaculating
    [16:15:51] rumel: Fantasy thoughts are good too.
    [16:16:12] ArcticWolves: when it fades away what is happening?? Are you ''trying'' to make it take you to the next level?
    [16:16:16] B Mayfield: I prefer ssing myself having a Super O....but then I know what a Super O looks and feels like
    [16:16:34] B Mayfield: I prefer using that is....ooops
    [16:16:53] B Mayfield: in this way one is ...."actualizing" the Super O
    [16:17:27] B Mayfield: again this can be done through technique as well
    [16:18:00] GeminiDon: AW trying to take it to the next level - dry orgasim... Suppose this is my probelm?
    [16:18:04] B Mayfield: but very often the wrong technique applied at the wrong time can extinguish sensation rather than build it
    [16:18:15] ArcticWolves: yes...
    [16:18:23] ArcticWolves: Don't force anything... Dont try to do anything

    [16:24:26] ArcticWolves: that's excellent just enjoy those feelings but don't expect them.. and don't force yourself to go over the edge
    [16:24:46] hlaser99: Down the rabbit hole . . .
    [16:24:56] ArcticWolves: waiting to go over edge seems interprets to me that you are expecting to go over the edge
    [16:24:56] hlaser99: Weeeeeeee!
    [16:24:58] B Mayfield: but there's nothing wrong with trying to mix it up either
    [16:25:03] rumel: You can't force yourself over the edge!
    [16:25:15] GeminiDon: AW your probably right - next time I'll try just go with the flow and see what happens
    [16:25:23] skeeter_g: GemInDon manipulate the buzz a bit.
    [16:25:35] skeeter_g: but dont puch it to hard.
    [16:25:44] skeeter_g: sorry push.
    [16:25:45] ArcticWolves: yup that's all you can doo... but you can have fun... vary your contractions a lil bit and see what happens... try holding a
    [16:25:47] rumel: Good strategy
    [16:25:47] ArcticWolves: few etc...
    [16:26:01] B Mayfield: change up something.....
    [16:26:02] hlaser99: Observe the feeling in your prostate and chill!
    [16:26:14] B Mayfield: again....look to focusing in a different way
    [16:26:24] skeeter_g: That works to hlaser
    [16:26:33] B Mayfield: focus on sensation......visualize....
    [16:26:33] ArcticWolves: most importantly love every moment of this wonderful pleasure... you're enjoying something most men never
    [16:26:38] ArcticWolves: thought was humanly capable
    [16:26:43] ArcticWolves: you have a secret ;)
    [16:27:02] rumel: Gemini, to Obi Wan Mayfield you listen!
    [16:27:16] hlaser99: LOL!
    [16:27:22] ArcticWolves: lol
    [16:27:30] skeeter_g: :laugh:
    [16:27:38] ArcticWolves: but yes, that's the right mindset gemini
    [16:27:40] hlaser99: Rumel-Yoda . . .
    [16:27:53] ArcticWolves: it doesn't seem like it would work by not forcing anything but you will be so amazed...
    [16:28:09] ArcticWolves: Just go with the flow and relax is the key
    [16:29:08] B Mayfield: flowing...letting go....in what one normally associates with tensing up....
    [16:29:32] B Mayfield: and there is some of that too....
    [16:29:57] zeto34: i have a question. is it good to watch porn during a session? when i dont, i have fun for a while but then start to doze off.
    [16:30:02] ArcticWolves: Go with the flow... but love that flow... don't be discouraged... don't expect anything... don't force anything..
    [16:30:09] B Mayfield: but a lot of what this has to do with is accepting a totally different kind of orgasmic experince
    [16:30:15] ArcticWolves: do whatever you love doing and makes it feel good
    [16:30:19] zeto34: but when i do i cant stop myself from goin for a traditional orgasm
    [16:30:29] ArcticWolves: hmmm
    [16:30:35] B Mayfield: there's nothing wrong with it....if it works for you...go with it
    [16:30:51] ArcticWolves: the body likes an occasional traditional orgasm but if this is what it leads you to doing every time
    [16:30:54] ArcticWolves: it's hurting you then...
    [16:30:55] B Mayfield: well.....that's the rub then...eh?
    [16:31:17] ArcticWolves: try exploring different paths/avenues/vacations
    [16:31:19] B Mayfield: you have a choice....either become more disciplined in how you use visual stimulation
    [16:31:25] hlaser99: I use Erotica to get my excitment up . . . then turn it off!
    [16:31:26] ArcticWolves: oops i mean journeys not vacations
    [16:31:29] B Mayfield: or find something else that arouses you
    [16:32:16] B Mayfield: it takes practice ....but I think in time you can find that "road less travelled "....with the porn
    [16:32:52] rumel: I'm with Hlaser , use the porn to ramp up your arousal, but then turn it off during the session, so you can focus on your
    [16:32:57] rumel: sensations.
    [16:33:11] B Mayfield: but again....ultimately....you will be able to do this without it....
    [16:33:15] ArcticWolves: two things are happening... first your aneros is working that prostate and your mind is loving it
    [16:33:30] ArcticWolves: however during the re-wiring process your mind is thinking traditional orgasm because you probably
    [16:33:43] ArcticWolves: have masturbated to porn throughout your life... I could be wrong I'm just assuming...
    [16:34:09] ArcticWolves: and your mind is reverting to traditional orgasm once it has it's stimulus... either try exploring other possibilities
    [16:34:22] ArcticWolves: or shut it off before your mind progams itself going into traditional orgasm
    [16:34:30] B Mayfield: men's bodies and minds are habituated to the traditional path
    [16:34:40] hlaser99: I also use audio erotica as well . . .
    [16:34:57] ArcticWolves: it's hurting your re-wiring if you have a traditional orgasm every time during a session
    [16:35:09] B Mayfield: what Rumel said is correct.....porn is very good for ramping arousal....
    [16:35:19] ArcticWolves: but it sure feels good with the aneros though... and that's all that it takes to get you interested
    [16:35:26] ArcticWolves: into what the future can bring
    [16:35:27] hlaser99: and of course Rumell's creation - audio!
    [16:35:40] B Mayfield: but at some point you want to transition to becoming aroused by the new sensations themselves!
    [16:36:08] B Mayfield: some time ago I wrote....that arousal is ITSELF arousing!
    [16:36:10] ArcticWolves: Yes, we are not trying to sale you anything... but Rumel's CD was created for noobies such as yourselves to get the hang of
    [16:36:17] ArcticWolves: relaxing and taking that path
    [16:36:28] hlaser99: Right, the thought of a dry orgasm!
    [16:36:56] B Mayfield: focusing on sensations....is arousing
    [16:36:58] zeto34: i have heard some sample clips of rumels cd. it sounded pretty good. i might try that.
    [16:36:58] hlaser99: The site of an Aneros...
    [16:37:03] ArcticWolves: I highly recommend it to any beginner or veteran. The advice is so great and informative...
    [16:37:04] GeminiDon: Apparenlty the orgasm senstaion by masturbation is diffenret then the orgasm with the Aneros?
    [16:37:04] rumel: I think one needs to break the psychological link between traditional ejaculation and Aneros use.
    [16:37:39] B Mayfield: thinking...imagining yourself have this kind of orgasm is ....arousing
    [16:37:44] ArcticWolves: and the best thing about the CD is you can play it over and over again... it's like having a pro by your side 24/7
    [16:37:45] hlaser99: Very much so . . .
    [16:38:08] B Mayfield: two totally different experiences....
    [16:38:16] ArcticWolves: you can download the whole album or get the CD...
    [16:38:35] B Mayfield: what we're talking about here is non-ejaculatory orgasm
    [16:38:51] ArcticWolves: yes Gemini, there is a whole lot more involved in a orgasm with the aneros...
    [16:38:58] hlaser99: right!
    [16:38:59] B Mayfield: potentially a more powerful experience
    [16:39:00] zeto34: so after a while i can be aroused just by thinking about me being aroused
    [16:39:15] B Mayfield: YES
    [16:39:16] rumel: YES!
    [16:39:18] hlaser99: exactly!
    [16:39:23] ArcticWolves: to tell you the truth zeto, YESSSSSSS!!!!
    [16:39:24] B Mayfield: absolutely.....I do it all the time!
    [16:39:25] zeto34: cool
    [16:39:40] ArcticWolves: lol mayfield gets aroused watching fireworks now
    [16:39:42] ArcticWolves: LOL
    [16:39:50] hlaser99: Me too B!
    [16:39:51] ArcticWolves: oops that's his secret
    [16:39:54] B Mayfield: certainly...at the point where you finally have a Super O....you will have memory of it that you can then use....
    [16:40:13] B Mayfield: ahh...yes...it's true....last 4 th of July!
    [16:40:16] ArcticWolves: sorry mayfield :unhappy: :blushin: :blush: :biggrin: :bigtongue:
    [16:40:29] B Mayfield: lol
    [16:40:38] hlaser99: And you know what htis feels like when you approach it!
    [16:40:56] B Mayfield: right
    [16:41:13] GeminiDon: Thanks guys for your help. I do have to leave, but will check out that CD
    [16:41:29] hlaser99: Do it!
    [16:41:36] B Mayfield: if there's one thing I could tell a newbie prior to his first Super O....
    [16:41:44] B Mayfield: take care GeminiDon
    [16:41:45] hlaser99: ByeGemini!
    [16:42:30] hlaser99: What's the one thing???
    [16:42:31] B Mayfield: that is....completely immerse yourself in the experience when it happens to you......
    [16:42:39] B Mayfield: don't fear it......go with it.....
    [16:42:47] ArcticWolves: Gemini, here's the CD link if you're interested... It has some audio samples
    [16:42:48] ArcticWolves: http://www.aneros.com/detail.php?id=100
    [16:42:57] ArcticWolves: oops i wasn't fast enough
    [16:42:58] ArcticWolves: oh well
    [16:43:02] B Mayfield: and most importantly.....MEMORIZE IT !
    [16:43:15] ArcticWolves: well that was fun
    [16:43:21] hlaser99: Make it your lover!
    [16:43:31] B Mayfield: yeah
    [16:43:41] ArcticWolves: hehehe you're still here zeto I commend you for staying the whole time :kiss:
    [16:43:51] ArcticWolves: :wub:
    [16:43:56] B Mayfield: ya hear that Zeto?
    [16:44:05] zeto34: this is intresting
    [16:44:10] ArcticWolves: :grin: :laugh: :tongue:
    [16:44:53] B Mayfield: the reason I say this...is that many have written that they have held back...even after pursuing this for so long.....when it
    [16:44:58] B Mayfield: finally comes to them....
    [16:45:22] B Mayfield: part of this is that the sensations are SO powerful...and in some ways so different
    [16:45:23] ArcticWolves: lol i think I'm going to pee my bed sometimes when i realize it's the p-waves coming on!
    [16:45:55] B Mayfield: use a pad there bud....lol
    [16:45:56] hlaser99: LOL! Pee- waves!
    [16:45:58] rumel: I think there is a fear of loss of control here, "LETTING GO" is scary.
    [16:46:12] ArcticWolves: lmao brian
    [16:46:23] B Mayfield: I know what you're talking about though...that is a sensation that one often feels
    [16:46:31] ArcticWolves: yup
    [16:46:59] B Mayfield: yes.....loss of control is part of it....it's also fear of the unknown....like....hey...wait a minute , where is this going?
    [16:47:04] ArcticWolves: then it feels like I'm going to shoot off the biggest most incredible load of my life!!
    [16:47:14] B Mayfield: lol
    [16:47:17] ArcticWolves: awww i love it
    [16:47:33] B Mayfield: I would just encourage anybody....to really have a sense of abandon about it....
    [16:47:49] ArcticWolves: zeto pretty soon you'll be able to go in the car and have all these wonderful sensations
    [16:47:52] B Mayfield: it's the best way to really internalize the experience...
    [16:47:55] ArcticWolves: you'll be driving and all of a sudden...
    [16:47:58] ArcticWolves: :P
    [16:48:07] rumel: Surrender to yourself.
    [16:48:18] ArcticWolves: Brian nailed it on the head though again... MEMORIZE what it FEELS like
    [16:48:23] B Mayfield: there you go....
    [16:48:25] zeto34: that would be awesome AW
    [16:48:29] B Mayfield: yep
    [16:48:51] B Mayfield: another thing...is some guys have issues about this not being....
    [16:48:54] ArcticWolves: you just have to experience to believe it... and it only takes that one experience to memorize how awesome
    [16:48:55] B Mayfield: MALE
    [16:48:55] ArcticWolves: that felt
    [16:49:17] ArcticWolves: It's the feminine side of us it's our G-SPOT (P-Spot)
    [16:49:35] ArcticWolves: lol just kidding.. let Brian talk
    [16:49:41] B Mayfield: one just has to realize that this is just another capacity that MEN have....
    [16:50:04] B Mayfield: no....I'm not....I have no problem getting in touch with my feminine side....
    [16:50:07] ArcticWolves: I like mine better Brian :biggrin:
    [16:50:24] hlaser99: a God given right to awaken this ability!!!
    [16:50:25] B Mayfield: cause really what we're talking about is "wiring".....
    [16:50:33] ArcticWolves: yeah
    [16:50:37] B Mayfield: we all have it....men and women....
    [16:50:44] ArcticWolves: yup
    [16:50:56] B Mayfield: women have the capacity for these orgasms as do men
    [16:51:07] B Mayfield: men can ejaculate as can women....
    [16:51:25] ArcticWolves: yup and it's because of me seeing a video of a women shaking uncontrollably
    [16:51:41] ArcticWolves: that got me interested into thinking.. if a woman can have it why can't a man have it
    [16:51:46] B Mayfield: and squirting all ove the place...yeah
    [16:52:03] ArcticWolves: the next day was seen me having a mind blowing spasming full body orgasm
    [16:52:27] B Mayfield: with or without socks?
    [16:52:33] ArcticWolves: with socks :P
    [16:52:35] ArcticWolves: you and my socks
    [16:52:42] B Mayfield: couldn't resist lol
    [16:52:44] ArcticWolves: i'll send you a pair with my autograph on it
    [16:52:50] ArcticWolves: :cool:
    [16:52:55] B Mayfield: it's just so....YOU lol
    [16:53:03] B Mayfield: LMAO
    [16:53:20] B Mayfield: I have to say one thing thoug
    [16:53:24] B Mayfield: though
    [16:53:50] B Mayfield: Redbeard is going to give you a run for your money with his JOCKSTRAP!
    [16:53:53] B Mayfield: lol
    [16:54:08] ArcticWolves: 7 minutes left :'( I wish we could go longer... Going to miss you all!! :unhappy: :unsure: :sad: :confused:
    [16:54:24] rumel: :laugh:
    [16:54:28] ArcticWolves: nah redbeard is quite funny
    [16:54:29] B Mayfield: where'd the time go eh?
    [16:54:52] ArcticWolves: i laughed so hard when I saw his leg go shaking all over the place
    [16:55:04] B Mayfield: listen....I give both of you a lot of credit for putting this out there like you've done
    [16:55:14] B Mayfield: all kidding aside....I think it's great!
    [16:55:14] ArcticWolves: yep
    [16:55:25] ArcticWolves: it's hard though which is why you don't see mine
    [16:55:26] B Mayfield: I know a lot of guys have appreciated it...
    [16:55:31] ArcticWolves: which is why i don't record alot
    [16:55:37] ArcticWolves: the feeling of having to perform is always there
    [16:55:48] ArcticWolves: some reason I just can't shut that out
    [16:55:55] ArcticWolves: i know the camera is there and I know it's being recorded
    [16:55:56] rumel: Yes AW you have more courage than I in that respect.
    [16:56:05] B Mayfield: I've tried to document it myself many times....
    [16:56:21] ArcticWolves: and that hurts me in my sessions
    [16:56:23] B Mayfield: never successfully....the videotaping always effects the process...
    [16:56:29] ArcticWolves: so i just shut it off and enjoy myself
    [16:56:49] ArcticWolves: but I am getting ready for another one
    [16:56:57] ArcticWolves: and I'm just going to forget about everything
    [16:57:07] B Mayfield: it's like....what a scientist goes through trying to set up an experiment where his observation doesn't effect the results...
    [16:57:19] rumel: Laws of physics, the observer affecting the observation.
    [16:57:29] B Mayfield: all the power to ya ma' friend
    [16:58:03] B Mayfield: there is a term for it....can't recall.....
    [16:58:09] ArcticWolves: thanks
    [16:58:32] ArcticWolves: I really appreciate though everything rumel, darwin, brian and any other contributors have written in the WIKI
    [16:58:38] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: hey everyone, time has flown by once again during the chat event :smile:
    [16:58:57] B Mayfield: hey...we had a good time doing it too...
    [16:59:00] ArcticWolves: without the WIKI i wouldn't have known such pleasure was possible
    [16:59:05] B Mayfield: I hope that it's helped people...
    [16:59:14] zeto34: thanks for your help everybody. see you later
    [16:59:22] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: it was great, glad you guys were all able to participate, just a note that we will try the all day event
    [16:59:26] ArcticWolves: Oh and thanks rumel and friends for the best CD of my life...
    [16:59:32] B Mayfield: Rumel and I were looking the other day....there are some pages that have gotten 50,000 hits so far!
    [16:59:35] ArcticWolves: so relaxing to listen to after a stressful day at work
    [16:59:38] hlaser99: Bye Zeto!
    [16:59:40] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: open chat rooms in a couple weeks for the whole weekend
    [16:59:45] B Mayfield: bye Zeto!
    [16:59:51] rumel: Your very Welcom!
    [16:59:56] ArcticWolves: Take care zeto
    [17:00:04] ArcticWolves: Good luck and hope to hear from you soon!!
    [17:00:05] B Mayfield: Hey that would be great....people could float in and out at will
    [17:00:09] hlaser99: Really???
    [17:00:17] B Mayfield: good idea support!
    [17:00:33] hlaser99: thanks!
    [17:00:36] B Mayfield: I think one thing that really effects this is TIME ZONE
    [17:00:44] rumel: Yes good idea!
    [17:00:45] hlaser99: Support!
    [17:00:46] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: i think the best way is for everyone to announce when they might be on
    [17:00:51] ArcticWolves: Hey I want to be a beta tester for the next lovely creation... how do I sign up LOL lol
    [17:01:03] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: agree, still experimenting with the times
    [17:01:05] hlaser99: And O-Zone . . .
    [17:01:16] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: for the next regular event we'll probably move it back to 10am PST
    [17:01:37] ArcticWolves: 10Am to 11pm would be great
    [17:01:40] hlaser99: Bye ALL!!!
    [17:01:46] B Mayfield: yeah probably better for some...
    [17:01:51] ArcticWolves: should give everyone a chance to be here
    [17:01:55] B Mayfield: cya
    [17:01:59] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: bye hlaser!
    [17:02:01] ArcticWolves: in regards to time zone... well take care everyone... it's been a blast
    [17:02:11] hlaser99: Bye
    [17:02:31] rumel: Bye H
    [17:02:35] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: thanks again all, we hope this was a nice way to start your days!
    [17:02:36] B Mayfield: you too....AW....it's going to another hot one down here in So. Cal...have a good one!
    [17:02:36] ArcticWolves: thanks for the help rumel
    [17:02:47] ArcticWolves: yeah it's hot already!
    [17:02:49] rumel: You bet
    [17:02:51] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: hope to see you all again at the next one!
    [17:03:08] ArcticWolves: Rumel you have an instant messenger? PM your details on the forum
    [17:03:21] B Mayfield: you too....thanks for all of your help Support !
    [17:03:21] [email]support@aneros.com[/email]: bye everyone!
    [17:03:25] ArcticWolves: I wan't to ask you a few more questions on the natural jelly
    [17:03:27] B Mayfield: bye